A B&W plug in that also has some promise is the Imagenomic B&W filter although they somewhat misname it as just a Grain Filter. Eric Neilsen Photography 4101 Commerce Street Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 http://e.neilsen.home.att.net http://ericneilsenphotography.com Skype ejprinter _____ From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steveh0607 Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 7:40 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Lightroom Beta 4.1 - Where is the B&W Channel Mixer Conversion Tool? --- In DigitalBlackandWhit <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "btvarner" <bthomasv@...> wrote: > I've played around with both Lightroom 4.1 and PS3 Beta and from what I can see so far the new Camera Raw 4.0 in PS3 has the same development module as Lightroom. If you don't need to sort through and manage very large volumes (and I think this is why Lightroom was developed - plus being an answer to Aperture), stick with PS3. As for black and white conversion PS3 has tools in a drop-down menu. Several conversion methods are offered including an "auto" tool that analyzes the photo (tone distribution?) then creates a conversion with a smooth tonal transition. You can then adjust as you see fit using the sliders and save as a pre-set. One thing I did notice about PS3 is that the Film Grain filter is gone as a stand-alone (at least I couldn't find it). "Grain" can be applied using the "Noise" filter with a choice of either "Gaussian", or "Uniform" distribution. This is awkward. I have my eye on Black and White Styler from Photo Wiz which looks like it may be very good. I'll have to wait for the Mac version to be released though. > <gcwagner@> wrote: > > > > I have tried the B&W Channel Mixer in PS3 and it is very similar to > >the one in Lightroom. I am trying to determine where Lightroom fits > >into my work flow. I have been using the PS2 Bridge without issue. > >How or why are are others using Lightroom? > > Thanks, > > Gary W. > > Gary, > I have only been fooling with Lightroom for a few hours however > already I feel it will be a help in my work flow. > > I currently convert my images to B&W through Channel Mixer in CS2. > Many times I have noticed that I cannot seem to get the look I am > after and must go back & tweak the color setting in an awkward way in > order to bring out some of the specific details I am after. > > I have tried several of these difficult images using Lightroom and > the ability to move the color sliders in Lightroom's Grayscale Mixer > seems to work in a way that seems more natural & effective to me. > > The second thing I find great about Lightroom is the way that the > Tone Curve can be adjusted through both the sliders and the > histogram. I do not think that any of this cannot be accomplished in > CS2 & I have heard that CS3 (I have not downloaded it yet) will have > some of the adjustments like Lightroom. I'm thinking it will be of > benefit to the way I process images. > > Having said all that there are some things I don't like. Having to > import an image before working on it seems unnecessary to me for one. > > I will work the beta into my workflow for a while. Then test CS3. > If Lightroom does everything I need with CS2 & CS3 does not have any > new features I cannot live without, I may just get Lightroom & stick > with CS2??? Too early to tell yet. > > Merry Christmas! > > Bruce > http://BruceVarner. <http://BruceVarner.com> com > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Lightroom Beta 4.1 - Where is the B&W Channel Mixer Conversion Tool?
2006-12-25 by Eric Neilsen
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