Digital BW, The Print

Silly question, when one of the colors starts to fade (not sure how  
soon that happens), won't a color cast jump right out in a black and  
white print made with color inks? It might not happen now, but what  
if in a few years or a poorly stored or exhibited photo. Should we  
worry?
Mark

On Jan 18, 2007, at 2:11 PM, Tyler Boley wrote:

> I confess I have not really explored how much metmerism was involved
> in the prints I've made here.
> What I found was that the hue of the Epson K and light Ks on Silver
> Rag is very unattractive. So much more use of the color inks is
> necessary than one might think to make it work.
> The use I liked best was to go with the direction indicated by the
> base and move the whole tone towards warm, like Portriga or Forte.
> Seemed to work well. Any workflow leaving a good amount of color inks
> avalable to utilize would probably be most atractive. However here I'm
> running the lightest K all the way up the scale, which the RGB driver
> won't allow.
> I'm talking UCK3s, not tried anything else on it.
> The various RIP options will let you do this of course, and possibly
> the ABW driver, I'm just not sure the ABW driver leaves enough color
> ink available to tone attractively, but I've not tried it. Also, it
> would be of use to change the tone throughout the scale, something
> they should put in that driver.
> I'm not sure if neutral is a good target use for this paper. I also
> found it all had to be done by eye, to taste, a techie aproach didn't
> take things very far.
> So far, under a variety of B&W uses, the Epson K3 blacks have been
> mostly a problem to solve, they are unattractive.
> Tyler
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho"
> <erudolph@...> wrote:
>>
>> Metamerism.  The print looked greenish-blue.  Previously, under
>> tungsten, daylight, even fluorescent, I had seen this print as pretty
>> neutral.  The gallery owner and her assistant looked at it.  The
>> assistant told me not to worry; that this was a common problem for
>> inkjet prints.  I was pretty embarrassed.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Gledhill
>> <stephengledhill@> wrote:
>>>
>>> In what way was it simply awful?
>>> Steve Gledhill
>>> http://www.virtuallygrey.co.uk/
>>>
>>> edrudolpho wrote:
>>>>
>>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>>>> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>, Steve
>> Gledhill
>>>> <stephengledhill@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Can only speak for myself - obviously.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a superb paper and I use it extensively. Particularly for
> large
>>>>> prints on my 4800 - with K3 inks, and ABW and QTR-Create-ICC.
>>>>> Why? Deep blacks. Warmish creamyish paper colour which I
>> particularly
>>>>> like for my work.
>>>>
>>>> This is exactly the workflow I was using (except on a 2400). Until
>>>> one day I walked into a gallery with a SilverRag
> ABW-K3-QTRIcc-printed
>>>> print. The print looked simply awful under their lighting. I lost
>>>> faith in the all-Epson ABW approach and ordered some MIS EZWarm to
>>>> replace the yellow ink and rejiggered my ABW settings. I haven't
> been
>>>> back to the gallery yet.
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>
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