Digital BW, The Print

David, You miss the point. You said, "That's really not your best test
image. Use a stock test image thats been 
desaturates so R=G=B" . I see no where here an implication of anything other
than simple desaturation. I also did not see Ian, you remember, the guy
asking for help, indicating that he had anything other than the Epson
driver. One of the really great features for people with out profiling
software/hardware was the addition of ABW from earlier drivers. 

 

Yes, The control of converting to B&W can be done and then with a simple
click of a button I can convert it back to RGB, but with a simple click of a
button a will not be able to place the red values here and the green values
there, and . And since the user was complaining of getting green hues, it
made sense to try and work another path to a successful outcome rather than
a "tweak" in the color realm. 

 

The dart board as you call it, is no more than the dartboard of Print Fix.
They both require a personal evaluation of some setting. And it requires no
additional software to print in ABW with the Epson driver, which for some is
THE option as opposed to those of us that have multiple options. While some
may feel there is excess color in the ABW, perhaps Ian is more concern with
a neutral print first and than more toward other satisfying results. 

 

I have made very nice looking neutral prints with the ABW feature before I
bought Print Fix and I am sure Ian can as well. I also was quite able to
adjust the screen to get very close. So Ian, if your prints are greenish,
and you haven't tried just printing with ABW from a gray scale file, give it
a try. Yes, you can print an RGB with ABW that has or does not have color
values that are uneven or not equal. It is not hard to adjust the color
selector to tune in your paper. Ian said, "Yes then, i've used the ABW mode
but did not make any adjustments." 

 

Ian, different paper selection will also affect your prints color, so choose
them wisely.  Did any of your Red River paper prints look close? My prints
on their Polar matte look great. However, they seem to like Hi speed
printing and my life is not so hurried, I prefer to uncheck that box. 

 

 

 

Eric Neilsen Photography

4101 Commerce Street

Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

http://e.neilsen.home.att.net

http://ericneilsenphotography.com

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
CDTobie@...
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 9:54 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] a new user with an Epson 3800 and green hued b/w
prints

 


In a message dated 1/20/07 12:36:28 PM, e.neilsen2@worldnet
<mailto:e.neilsen2%40worldnet.att.net> .att.net writes:

> IMHO it is best to print B&W images in the ABW from gray scale files, but
> that is just the way I work. To simply desaturate an image doesn't give
you
> control of tonal conversion. Why give up that control?
> 

A desaturated RGB image means one where all three channels are identical. It

doesn't mean its done via the desaturate command, it can be done via any and

all of the special tools, methods, and plugins for conversion. Some give you
a 
three channel neutral result, some give you a one channel neutral result,
that 
you can bump back up to three channels if your workflow starts from an RGB 
instead of a grayscale file. Printing from AWB means losing all preview, and
all 
tinting tools except the AWB dartboard, and doesn't allow for crosstinting. 
So there are lots or reasons to consider other methods, even for those who
work 
from grayscale files.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Division
DataColor Inc.
CDTobie@colorvision <mailto:CDTobie%40colorvision.com> .com
www.colorvision.com

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