Wow..thanks...I have been just using the stuff from target, kodak gold 200, and kodak MAX 400, both c41. Target charges 94 cents to develop a roll, and the rolls are about $1.75. I really only see the resolution difference on my computer screen, and maybe a little bit a 8x10. I really like this minolta rangefinder. I also bought a couple film bodies for my minolta 7d lenses. I like the dynamic range of film in certain situations better than digital, and also the depth of field is a bit more narrow because of the larger "sensor" (film) size. ...thanks again, DM On Jan 28, 2007, at 7:21 AM, djon43 wrote: > Modern fast films (400, 800 ei) offer incredibly high resolution, but > so did the fast films of yesteryear, such as TriX and Ilford HP3/4, > when rated normally or pushed a stop or two, processed reasonably well > in common developers. Personally, I love Fuji Neopan 400 and I rate it > at 800 in Rodinal...extremely high resolution and/but the grain is > sharply defined by my scanner. > > If you're seeing detail resolution differences between film speeds I > think something other than exposure index is the problem. For example, > something about the development of your faster film could be causing > lots of grain or even reticulation, which could hurt resolution. On > the other hand, people wanting speed have often been encouraged to use > B&W developers that "dissolve grain" (with sodium sulfite, > specifically) and these do reduce resolution...sodium sulfite does > hurt resolution, but some people hate grain so much that they don't > mind losing a little detail. > > If you're seeing resolution differences in small size prints, such as > letter-size, something other than film choice is probably the culprit. > > The fact that you mentioned 200ei, a now-uncommon film speed that was > recently popular in Walmart etc (good film..I shot a lot of it) > suggests you're comparing a modern high resolution color negative film > (or C41 B&W film) with something that's lower resolution, and not > lower just because of speed. The C41-processed color and B&W films are > exceptionally high resolution, though not necessarily as attractive as > silver-based films, and well processed silver based films can easily > "look" sharper because of sharply defined silver grain. > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, <lipshurt@...> > wrote: > > > > this is a very dumb question I am sure, but I have been digital for > a long time and never seriously used film. When I was a kid we had a > darkroom at the house but only printed 4x6. I do not remember the size > of the grain at various ISO's. I just started getting into film with a > nice rangefinder and am surprised that ISO 400 has less resolving > power that ISO 200. Is that correct? I did not think there would that > big of a diference. I am scanning at 3200 DPI which works great at ISO > 200 but everyting is much softer at ISO 400. Is that normal? Thanks > putting up with me...Doug M > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Filmgrain question
2007-01-29 by Douglas meeuwsen
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