Digital BW, The Print

I don't mind posting images I can't print on photo forums, but I know better
than to reference them on a printing forum.

I'm only 80% of the way to darkroom results and I'm encouraged so far.

I think Sarah has confidence in the prints. That's the most important thing.
Though the "wisdom" is to theme the work, I looked at them in large mode as
individual works and feel many can stand on their own merits.

gar - to some printers, croping is a rural activity


-----Original Message-----
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of djon43
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:20 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: My website... darkness notes:


Sarah, I find your images and their implied narratives so abstract
(lacking story lines but possessing titles) that I doubt differences
in monitor setups make any difference. Even a poor monitor might tell
your tale adequately, for all I know.

Perhaps they'd be stronger, presented as a slide show, with each image
timed appropriately...that's always been a powerful way to share slides.

Seeing actual prints, all hanging on a wall in a row, brings coherence
to artworks by a person or group, as well as to photographs. That's
Gallery 101.

Self-designated artists routinely accept that "everything is
relative," but I don't think many generally recognized artists,
photographers, or thinkers would agree: Ask the ghosts of Edward
Weston and Dianne Arbus.

I do "like" your images... they're at least as "good" as mine. I don't
find them strong, seen individually this way. That's far from
"relative," it's my own absolute truth.

Their labels notwithstanding, you have NOT shown us images of carbon
prints, you have shown us images on glowing screens. Only the most
extreme among us will ever have (or obsess about) technically close
approximations of prints on monitors, and only the most naieve of us
will believe we're seeing credible renditions of anyone's prints on
our monitors.

I'd like to see your actual print-work because I've seen your monitor-
work.

Thanks for having the courage to stimulate this discussion.

John





--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sagaface"
<sagaface@...> wrote:
>
> I have received a couple of emails letting me know that the photos
look too dark on
> calibrated monitors (thank you!), and I wanted to address this issue
for a moment:
>
> My images are very dark in general, with high contrast and very
little shadow detail by
> design. Printed, they look exactly as they should (thank you Clayton
and BO!), matching
> my calibrated monitor to a T. Unfortunately, there is a very fine
line between as dark as
> they are and too dark that gets crossed when viewed on differently
calibrated monitors, it
> would seem...I'm not sure what to do about this. I'm going to put a
thin border on the
> images and see if that helps. So, please let me know if the viewing
is improved at all....I
> appreciate it!
>
> Sarah
>




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