Digital BW, The Print

I'm a bit late to this party, but here goes... a couple of years ago I 
started with a C86 and Epson OEM inks. The C86 was gently used when I 
got it, but it made great BO prints right from the start. I ordered the 
MIS EZ-N inks and found that the prints made using that inkset, while 
very nice-looking, weren't very different in appearance (almost 
identical, in fact) to the BO prints I had made. However, when I tried 
BO with the MIS Eboni ink, I got banding that I couldn't get rid of.

That C86 recently died, and I purchased a C88+ to replace it. I'm still 
on the Epson OEM inks that came with the printer, but so far the BO 
looks pretty good. (It'll need a curves adjustment, but there's no 
banding.) I agree with Adam that there is probably a lot of unit-to-unit 
variability.

Jordan

Adam Maas wrote:
>
> I also got lucky and got a C86 which does good BO. So good that I still
> haven't got around to buying the quadtone set (Although I should soon,
> I'm low on ink anyways).
>
> But BO on the C series really is a crapshoot, some unts do it well,
> others don't. Quadtone isn't a crapshoot though.
>
> -Adam
>
> Philip Schwartz wrote:
> >
> >
> > Like a lot of folks, I started years ago printing BO. Inspired by
> > Clayton's prints, I made some BO prints of recent images on my C86
> > with MIS UT-FSN. The 5x7 and 6x8 images on matte paper were awfully
> > nice and matched my quadtone prints in tonality, with a slight
> > graininess perceptable at close viewing distances. I still like my
> > quad- and hextone prints better, but the BO prints are respectable.
> > BO printing can definitely work well with some image content.
> > That said, I agree with Paul: if you aren't going to print BO, don't
> > worry about it :-)
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>, "Paul Roark"
> > <paul.roark@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Don't worry about the bad BO results. That's typical for the
> > inexpensive
> > > printers. It'll probably be fine with all the gray inks installed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/ 
> <http://www.paulroark.com/>
> > <http://www.paulroark.com/ <http://www.paulroark.com/>>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
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> > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
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> > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
> > > marcinemem
> > > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 5:42 AM
> > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [Digital BW] C88 - dissapointment at the beginning - is it
> > normal?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Everybody!
> > >
> > > I have just received my Epson C88+ printer (D88+ in Europe). Because I
> > > am still waiting for package from MIS (with UT-EZ inkset) I tested BO
> > > printing with Epson black ink and Epson Photo Semigloss paper. What a
> > > dissapointment! Even if blacks don't look as bad as I expected all the
> > > rest is a way below my expectations. Very visible banding, greys don't
> > > look I would like them to look like... I used picture in 
> greyscale, 360
> > > dpi but format was very small - 8x4 (15x10cm). OK, that was my really
> > > really first attempt to BO printing - ink is not right, same paper
> > > but... should the result look like that? I also tried full color
> > > picture and result, maybe except dark shadows and blacks in 
> general, is
> > > quite right.
> > >
> > > Marcin
> > >
>
>  

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Jordan Wosnick
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