Digital BW, The Print

Thanks Clayton.Good info as always.I actually got a new 4800 a few
weeks ago, but have not ran any ink through it yet.I'm still tweaking
my portfolio for 16x20's, and am trying to decide which ink to try
first.I have both the k3 mk and pk carts already, but have been toying
with the idea of starting with k7 or k4 and selling the unopened K3
carts.I have been printing in BO with Eboni on HPR on an old 1160 for
quite awhile with good results, and am a little nervous on how to
start with this new machine.

Chris

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones"
<cj@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Chris,
> 
> >How does the K3 mk compare to eboni? 
> 
> There was a lot of discussion about this when K3 first appeared, with
> this generally agreed upon conclusion (for matte paper of course): 
> Eboni is still a tad cooler, and has slightly better dmax on HPR and
> some other papers.  But K3 MK has slightly better dmax on VFA and
> other Epson papers.  So it varies, but the general conclusion is that
> K3 MK is very good and they are close.  
> 
> My sense from reports here are that people are either using the entire
> MIS K4 set (includes Eboni), usually to reduce cost, or are using the
> entire K3 set.  I never got the sense that using K3 inks with Eboni
> was worthwhile.  Some are using a separate RIP to drive K3 inks
> without the Yellow, or use ABW with a yellow substitute.  But it's
> been a long time since I read anything about using Eboni with K3
> colors...anybody doing this?
> 
> 
> >Could someone coming from MIS ultratone inks on an older Epson be 
> >happy with the K3 inks on a newer x800 printer?
> 
> Moving to a K3 printer is a completely different approach than MIS UT
> (color inks vs grayscale inks).  It's much more than the difference
> between Eboni and K3 MK.  There will definitely be a different look
> and feel to the prints, and a difference in the way you work.  You
> have to be prepared to discard all your notions of how things work and
> how you tweak the system, basically starting over and learning a
> different mind set.  The print quality is excellent.  Your ability to
> "be happy with" it depends a lot on how well you can embrace something
> new and different.
> 
> There are also different ways to use K3 printers, from the simplified
> ABW workflow to color management with the Epson driver to using a RIP.
>  So there are choices to be made there as well.
> 
> Regards,
> Clayton
> 
> 
> Info on black and white digital printing at    
> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
>