Digital BW, The Print

After dealing with them for over 30 years it is hard to change, this  
happens with my girl friends after they get married too :)
Mark

On Feb 27, 2007, at 10:55 AM, Max Dee wrote:

> Stop using the ILFORD name ....Ilford is dead....."Long Live Harman  
> Technology"
>
>
> Mark Savoia <mark@ctphoto.com> wrote:
>   Just heard from my Ilford (Harman) rep, the paper is the same as  
> when
> I tested it back in November. They made no changes.
> Mark
>
> On Feb 25, 2007, at 7:53 PM, Tyler Boley wrote:
>
>> Could very well be different. This packaging says the largest roll
>> available is 24", largest sheet 13x19. There's a deal killer right
>> there. It also dries right away, so sounds different.
>> T
>>
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I tested a 44" roll back in November, hot off the ship. I put an e-
>>> mail into my Ilford (Harman) rep to see if they made any changes
>>> since then, but no word back from him yet, on vaca.
>>> I tried letting it dry for a few days, put it in a dry mount press
>>> and a fingernail peeled it right off. It was a bit scary. The Epson
>>> UC inks were fine.
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Feb 25, 2007, at 7:17 PM, Tyler Boley wrote:
>>>
>>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI... and Cone's PiezoTone inks scratch right off. Too bad.
>>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> Mark, I noticed your mention of that, but they didn't seem to
>>>> here. In
>>>> fact the prints are pretty durable.
>>>> I wonder if the paper has been changed since your test?
>>>> Tyler
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