Digital BW, The Print

I looked in Seattle store at both 3800 and Canon IPF5000. Price 
generally is quite close with Canon rebate, and there is no after-
market carts for any of those machine. Side by side, Epson looked quite 
flimsy compared to Canon. I am wondering, is there any benefit in 
getting Epson 3800 compared to Canon besides of $100 and smaller 
footprint? Glazer's associate wasn't able to show me any samples, or 
tell anythyng beyond usual marketing crap about both printers, but 
that's expected. Does anyone here have good reasons to prefer Epson?

I see IPF5000 on shades of paper and other places for about $1400, and 
3800 is generally goes for $1300. After looking for years how my 2200 
is spitting inks to waste I lost my trust to Epson, even when my inks 
are not OEM anymore. In a long run it seems that Canon will save $100 
difference in inks expences pretty soon after purchase. I am looking 
for the printer for both color and B/W, any opinions. please? 
I could and will experiment with 2200 and R200 using MIS B/W inks, but 
I also want to have a machine that will do decent color, B/W, will not 
require hassling around with RIP and black magic, and will not be 
designed as money syphone.

Thanks,
Sergei

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Tom Baker 
<tbaker1328@...> wrote:
>
> I believe that many, many people would be quite happy with a larger 
printer based on the 3800. Especially if they managed to keep the 
relative price point.
>    
>   Tom Baker
>