Adrian,
I have been buy at FotoFusion the past few days. We had a end of fusion beach party last night and it was a great time.
To answer your questions.
I am printing on the 7000 with the MIS FS inks. I am using the Lyson profiles ie; "Lyson_310gsm_standardFA". This profile is German Etching/Orwell. I find that these profiles work better for me than the Cone profiles in ImagePrint 4.
However, the blacks I am getting are being tested and compared on the Hahnemuhle Torchon 285 utilizing the "Lyson_285gsm_soft-fine-art. As you know Torchon produces one of the best blacks to begin with. I displayed prints at FotoFusion and the attendees were all very impressed with the blacks that I have obtained with ImagePrint 4.
It is important to remember that there are just so many variables. Double Density Black vs. Standard Balck, humidity, temperature, etc.
I did learn one very important thing this week....and that is as photgraphers, we are spending much to much time experimenting with inks and not enough time photographing. I attended a lecture by Michael Kenna and was once again in awe by this man's work. And beyond that, he is an intelligent, friendly and lovely person to speak with. I was so engaged by his work that I purchsed his image "A pair of trees, Dearborn, Michigan". It is a gelatin silver print sepia tones. It has this incredible pinkish/brown/sepia look that is mezmerizing.
I also spent a bit of time with Dr. Richard Zakia of RIT fame and he made one of the funniest statements I had heard. In a panel discussion with Gordon Brown, Vincent Versce, Jill Enfield he responded to the mediator by saying "If silver printing is gourmet food, then I guess digital printing is fast food". The audience broke out laughing and coming from a well know educator, it was just out of context and very entertaining.
The varied samples of work that I saw were amazing. Work from Arnold Newman portraits to Michael Kenna urban landscapes. Afer 4 days, lectures, workshops, parties, and a lot of drinking I came away reinvigorated to create art.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Joyner
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Piezo2 vs ImagePrint RIPS? Mike K.?
Mike
Were you using Piezo or FS inks. What paper and profile. I just tried it again and got the same results as before so I must be doing something different to you.
BTW how did the mono print that you made with the Epson color inks last?profiles
310
Adrian
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Kravit
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Piezo2 vs ImagePrint RIPS? Mike K.?
Adrian,
That is very strange as a densitometric comparison that I did of the same file in IP4 and Piezo indicated that the IP4 blacks were siginificantly more dense. Something approaching 2.0 as compared to 1.69. Maybe I will repeat the tests this weekend.
-MIke
----- Original Message -----
From: Adrian Joyner
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Piezo2 vs ImagePrint RIPS? Mike K.?
Quentin
I agree. I've got a demo copy of Imageprint on which Piezo is based. I don't know whether Jon Cone will have enhanced this for Piezo2 but there is certainly, IMHO, no quantum leap in quality with the base product. Printing the Proof of Piezography test image does show a smooth tonal ramp but then so does Piezo. The dither pattern looks as good as each other. Surprisingly the 100% black on EAM using Piezo measures 1.63 on my densitometer compared to 1.58 on ImagePrint. There is increased separation on the blacks with ImagePrint thereafter with 90% reading 1.40 on Piezo and 1.32 on ImagePrint. I always seem to be in a bit of a minority as I like the existing shadow separation in Piezo and never felt that it needed expanding.
Strangely the Imageprint vertical resolution test lines show a strange horizontal banding but otherwise are comparable.
Of course the ImagePrint evaluation software prints DEMO all over the image so it is difficult to make a comparision on an actual image. There doesn't seem to be an EAM profile so both were printed with the Cone Matte profile.
If you want a copy of the print let me know
Adrian Joyner
Clevedon
United Kingdom
----- Original Message -----
From: qdfb
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:38 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Piezo2 vs ImagePrint RIPS? Mike K.?
Julian,
My last message got lost in cyberspace...This duplicates it...
Nij of Mwords kindly showed me a print made on a 7000 using the new
Piezo2 RIP this morning, and let's just say that so far as I am
concerned, the jury is out at the moment on whether Piezo2 print
quality matches Pro24 / PiezoB&W. This is (if you'll excuse the pun)
still a grey area...
Print quality is what ultimately matters most to me, and I would want
to see more examples before moving to the new RIP.
As to more general comparisons with Imageprint 4, it is pretty
obvious looking at the interface that Piezo2 is based on Imageprint
4. For more general info, all you can do at the moment is check out
the Piezo2 details at
http://www.piezography.com/piezography2.html
and the pages linked from there, or you could try emailing Jon (good
luck!)
--
Quentin
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Piezo2 vs ImagePrint RIPS? Mike K.?
2002-01-27 by Michael Kravit