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RE: [Digital BW] Suggestions for Negative Scanner

2007-04-10 by Alan Ansell

FWIW: I'm not a photographer and therefore don't have a great understanding of what would constitute a 'good' scan of a 35mm negative but going by the evidence of my own eyes and software/hardware I am thoroughly impressed by the results gained using an Epson 4990 flatbed scanner (which ships with a variety of film negative holders) and VueScan software/drivers.
The reason that I'm quite happy with the results - and where I may well differ from yourselves - is that my output sizes don't go beyond A3+. But one of the fascinating things about the VueScan software is that although you can set scan resolutions up to 6000 dpi, left in auto mode, the software makes a very intelligent guess of scan resolution based on output size. However much (I realise) that the following might sound like an anathema to you dedicated enthusiasts - or may simply be inappropriate to your needs - I have found from my own demonstrations that having an image for A4 printing output by the scanner at 150 - 240 dpi produces a superb print. No, it's not going to be gallery quality but neither have I ever seen the need for scan resolutions beyond 4800dpi - whatever the output size. There are extensive reviews of the Epson 4990 and 700 on the web - with valid comparisons with dedicated film scanners. Again depending on needs, personally I cannot see the advantages
conferred over my £200 scanner by a dedicated film model costing many times the price.

I've looked at quite a lot of noise reduction and filtering in Photoshop. My own experiences are that used well, Photoshop's tools (I'm using CS2 version) are really very good. There isn't anything out there I've found that offers any significant improvement except for the suite of tools from Nik Software - their sharpening and other image tools - like camera specific noise reduction tools which read RAW data from your camera - are (IMO) superb:

http://www.niksoftware.com/professionalsuite/en/entry.php?

Just my twopence worth.

-- 
  Alan Ansell
  aansell@...

----- Original message -----
From: "j brubaker" <jb@...>
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:27:57 -0400
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Suggestions for Negative Scanner

Julie - I too have recently been scanning alot of older film images.
I'm using a Minolta Multi-pro which has a good reputation as a pro-level
scanner, but I still get lots of grain - depending on the film. When we
all shot film, we just accepted the grain as part of the photo process.
Now, with the smooth digital look we're getting more critical about it!
I've found that noise reduction software can help. I took your Fritz
the cat image and ran "Noise Ninja" on it. You can see the result at:
[1]http://truepicture.com/fritz.jpg
Compare with the original, and you will see that it is a bit smoother,
and less noisy. If I were you, I'd invest in some type of noise
reduction software and give it a try before buying another scanner.
Most of the software solutions have demos you can try before buying.
Good Luck ---john.
-----Original Message-----
From: [2]DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[3]DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
julieseltzergirl
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:29 AM
To: [4]DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Suggestions for Negative Scanner
Hello all,
For about 10 years I have used a Minolta QuickScan 35 plus, and have
used it to scan in lots of 35mm negatives.
I am finding that I am not entirely satisfied with the noise levels.
Further, it seems that there are no drivers for this beyond Windows 2k.
I currently have it connected to an old win 2k laptop but the images
come out extremely grainy and/or noisy.
I can't afford to spend more than $800 on a new scanner. Any thoughts
out there about what would be a good scanner purchase?
I don't need a print scanner, and it seems that anything that is doing
both negatives and prints wouldn't do negatives as well.
Also, is it inevitable that I will get lots of grain? An example of
what I mean is at
[5]http://www.seltzerg
<[6]http://www.seltzergirl.com/scanex/img034_FritzInBathroom.jpg>
irl.com/scanex/img034_FritzInBathroom.jpg
Again, all I have are 35mm negatives, so perhaps I can't get better
quality than this.
Thanks in advance
julie
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