Hi All, I agree with this approach for the most part. A scanner should show you which side of the film the dust is on - it should be that sharp(ugly). From there, one refines focus and filters to produce the image. I'm using a old CoolScanII for 35mm this year and my old ScanmakerIII's for larger stuff. My second flatbed is so out of focus there is never any grain. gar -----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of j brubaker Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:28 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Suggestions for Negative Scanner Julie - I too have recently been scanning alot of older film images. I'm using a Minolta Multi-pro which has a good reputation as a pro-level scanner, but I still get lots of grain - depending on the film. When we all shot film, we just accepted the grain as part of the photo process. Now, with the smooth digital look we're getting more critical about it! I've found that noise reduction software can help. I took your Fritz the cat image and ran "Noise Ninja" on it. You can see the result at: http://truepicture.com/fritz.jpg Compare with the original, and you will see that it is a bit smoother, and less noisy. If I were you, I'd invest in some type of noise reduction software and give it a try before buying another scanner. Most of the software solutions have demos you can try before buying. Good Luck ---john. -----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of julieseltzergirl Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:29 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Suggestions for Negative Scanner Hello all, For about 10 years I have used a Minolta QuickScan 35 plus, and have used it to scan in lots of 35mm negatives. I am finding that I am not entirely satisfied with the noise levels. Further, it seems that there are no drivers for this beyond Windows 2k. I currently have it connected to an old win 2k laptop but the images come out extremely grainy and/or noisy. I can't afford to spend more than $800 on a new scanner. Any thoughts out there about what would be a good scanner purchase? I don't need a print scanner, and it seems that anything that is doing both negatives and prints wouldn't do negatives as well. Also, is it inevitable that I will get lots of grain? An example of what I mean is at http://www.seltzerg <http://www.seltzergirl.com/scanex/img034_FritzInBathroom.jpg> irl.com/scanex/img034_FritzInBathroom.jpg Again, all I have are 35mm negatives, so perhaps I can't get better quality than this. Thanks in advance julie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See \ufffdGroup Topic, Rules and Guidelines\ufffd in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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RE: [Digital BW] Suggestions for Negative Scanner
2007-04-10 by Gary W. Weaver
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