Digital BW, The Print

"Thank you so much for the helpful information on the 3800.  I have the 2200
and I have not been happy with the BW images. I am a traditional darkroom
guy so I am pretty picky"

I too am a traditonal darkroom guy (20 years) and am pretty picky - 4x 
enlargements of 4x5 negatives and 8x10 contact prints from 8x10 negatives). 
I also used a 2200 until buying the 3800 just a few weeks ago (mainly to 
gain the K3 inks and larger print size). I found that the 2200 with UC inks 
made outstanding b&w prints if QTR was used. If your only reason for 
thinking of a switch to the 3800 is unhappiness with the 2200 for b&w you 
might consider trying QTR with your 2200 first  assuming you're not already 
using it.

I haven't made enough b&w prints using Advanced B&W in the 3800 to form a 
definite opinion but with the few I've made my impression is that Advanced 
B&W in the 3800 does as good a job as the 2200 with QTR but if it's better 
the difference hasn't yet shown up to my eyes without a side-by-side 
comparison.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Grant" <gphoto2@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 2:36 AM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] MIS Pro Inks - color printing


Thank you so much for the helpful information on the 3800.  I have the 2200
and I have not been happy with the BW images. I am a traditional darkroom
guy so I am pretty picky.  I have not strayed from the standard Epson inks
and was hoping the 3800 would save me all the grief.



Sounds like it's the way to go.



I do appreciate the feedback.



Paul



-----Original Message-----
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of shangheye
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 9:19 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] MIS Pro Inks - color printing



I recently bought the Pro 3800 (first time to use an Epson!), and I
can vouch for the quality of it's B&W prints. Like all printers an
important step is to make sure that you are using a well calibrated
screen, but I have found the printer profiles that come with the
printer have been excellent, and final prints match what I am
seeing. I am currently printing using the RGB mode (specifically
sRGB profiled images) matched with the Epson sRGB setting in the
Custom section of the print driver. This produces excellent neutral
prints (at least with the Epson papers)to my eye. The Advanced
Black & White feature also produces excellent prints though to my
eye slightly warmer (only really detectable in the mid-tones)when
compared to the sRGB prints. The blacks are also deeper in the ABW
mode. I now print ABW mainly in lower contrast prints, where I need
slightly more dynamic range in the print (which is provided by the
darker blacks),a nd use the toning tool to add a little blue to get
a neutral print I like. Thouroughly recommend it as a printer, and
perfect size if you are limited in space and mainly print sheet
(needs more space if you are printing on Fine Art Paper etc, for the
front and rear feeders). Having come from Canon printers, I am
delighted with the idea of not having to switch inks! Rgds, K

--- In DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Paul Grant
<gphoto2@...> wrote:
>
> I would imagine that since the new Epson 3800 has auto switching
of the
> black inks.....I would assume that the new larger formats would
have the
> same plus other new features.
>
> Anyone out there have experience wit the 3800 for b/w. I am
thinking of
> upgrading from my 2200. I would appreciate any comments.
>
> Regards,
> Paul
>
>
> On 4/25/07 6:29 PM, "john dean" <deanwork2003@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, as someone who has a house full of Epsons and has used them
> > daily for 7 years..if their next large format machine doesn't
> > incorporate auto switching between mk and pk they might as well
hang
> > it up.
> >
> > john
> >
> > Next it will be
> >> > Epson's turn again, and they don't tend to let much grass grow
> > under their feet.
> >> >
> >> > C. David Tobie
> >> > Product Technology Manager
> >> > ColorVision Business Division
> >> > DataColor Inc.
> >> > CDTobie@
> >> > www.colorvision.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > **************************************
> >> > See what's free at
> >> > http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com.> com.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
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