Digital BW, The Print

Bob Marsolais wrote:

>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Editor P.O.V.
>Image Service" <editor@...> wrote:
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>>Ok, this is a PURE printing issue and reportedly ONLY under Windows.
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>Actually, this is a PURE Adobe issue, which you have posted on
>multiple non-Adobe specific message boards...
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>Recently some of the Digital B&W and Epson Printer digests have had
>over 66% of their content related to CS3-specific issues.  
>
1)     Well that's interesting. Because , since I posted my first post 
on this list regarding the issue, on May 12, there have been exactly 16 
posts from me out of 131 total posts  onlist during the same period.  
Doing the math, that comes out to approximately 12%.

2)    I set up the EPSON list in 2000 and spend time running it EVERY 
day, you.. um... don't... I spend time every day moderating: approving 
posts, approving members, etc. That's while teaching and taking 
courses.  Got any idea how much dedication it takes BY MYSELF to deal 
for 7 years with  lists that now total over 10,000 subscribers?  How 
about monitoring a few hundred posts a day?  Ask the moderators here how 
much time it takes and how you always have to make sure someone 
checks...  even on vacation...

.and you know what? I'm the ONLY moderator of those groups (others have 
dropped the ball repeatedly), that means most of the time, I don't have 
the leisure to  post., meaning I only post when I think it's necessary 
to get some news out there.

I don't get free ink from EPSON or the other printer manufacturers. I 
don't get printer deals from anyone. I don't get a dime from advertising 
or YAHOO!  I get virtually NOTHING for running those lists and yet I 
give my time freely. (My lawyer thinks I should have used the lists to 
make money long ago, but I have refused, because it isn't in the spirit 
of why and how the groups were set up.)

Bottomline?  As unfair as it may sound, that means, at the end of the 
day, I decide what content gets posted there and what doesn't. I also 
decide who is allowed to post there, and under what conditions. In fact, 
I generally leave people free to post until/unless they engage in 
personal attacks. If they do, they go.

If you don't like the EPSON list content, you are free to leave that 
list. As for this list, it is moderated by others and B&W focusses, 
therefore I have consciously not posted a good deal of what has been 
posted over on the EPSON list regarding CS3.

>Combine
>that with getting your identical post multiple times from multiple
>user groups, we non-CS3 users are spending a lot of time filtering
>through non-B&W printing issues that do not apply to us.  The majority
>of us probably don't use CS3, but rather CS2 or earlier, Elements,
>PWP, or something else. 
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That's the reality of having multiple subscriptions. How do you think I 
deal with that when running four printer lists and moderating a fifth?

> May I suggest you're stretching beyond proper
>limits what is appropriate to post on this very topic-specific board?
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You may suggest it and I appreciate the tone, but Photoshop is still the 
pre-eminent image editing program out there. In fact, without it, B&W 
digital printing would not be where it is today. Again, feel free to ask 
the REAL experts like Roark, Clayton or CD Tobie.

>Respectfully submitted for your consideration,
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..and appreciated. Keep in mind that chaff is part of why I generally 
haven't responded to attacks on my posts: if for no other reason than to 
keep posts that have a low signal to noise ratio down.

Before throwing rocks at the messenger next time (and I don't mean you 
specifically), it would be nice for people to consider what the 
messenger has given the community at no cost. Adobe and the printer 
manufacturers get paid for what they do.  I do it because I give a damn 
about the user community.  Maybe that's a ridiculously dated and 
benighted concept in this day of commodification of everything right 
down to forehead space for advertising, but it's an idea many once shared.

 
Keith Krebs

"Just some guy," caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer 
User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo 
Publications), at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/
and  the Multiverse's largest Canon printer User  Community at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon-printers
"For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together 
guys"

 

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