Digital BW, The Print

Superb!  But can we get back on point.  I¹m sure those with issues with
Adobe can make their way to the Adobe forums where there is likely a more
concentrated bunch of people interested in these issues.  Thanks for the
heads-up, but it¹s time to move on.



From: "Editor P.O.V. Image Service" <editor@...>
Organization: Persistence of Vision Image Service
Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 12:53:21 -0400
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Photoshop CS3  Win distortion w/unequal
horizontal and veritcal printing re

 
 
 

 From the group rules of this forum Gary:

1)  "Open and candid discussion is encouraged. However, courtesy must
prevail and it is expected that exchanges should not deteriorate into
personal insults, harassment, threats, etc. Beyond these obvious
breaches of civilized behavior, users who are persistently hostile,
aggressive or argumentative will be considered to be in violation of the
rules and spirit of this forum. "

You have a history on this list of appointing yourself the list-cop AND
attacking longterm members/contributors of the digital imaging
community.  I'll simply suggest that if you intend to take that role on,
you might want to read the rules and understand the difference between
debate and ad hominem personal attack.

You also have a history of personally attacking people on this list when
their opinions don't support your preconceptions. I'll remind you here
of your attack on Dave Tobie in January:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/8340
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or your ad-hominem attack in February of a poster's use of the word
"color" to describe some online B&W images:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/8356
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or another ad hominem attack by you (this one against formal
recognition/certification):
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/7883
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or one on another poster's credibility, simply because she asked questions:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/7451
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or another, ad hominem attack upon someone's photographic work/credentials:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/6843
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or one on the need for technical/scientific discussions on this list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/7337
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Of course, you have also posted to the list how much of the technical
side you've learned from it over the years...

..and used to even ask for technical explanations, such as why one might
prefer 16bit to 8bit image processing.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/6652
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You came to this list a scant two years ago using a 1280 for B&W and
were generally exceedingly polite throughout until early October of 2005
(I gotta wonder what changed your attitude towards life and people
around then) .

It seems, since then, you have a clear trend of onliest issues with
individuals or systems that have formal certification of authority, or
even whom the community has recognized as authorities... I won't posit
why that might be onliest, but feel free to email me offlist if you want
some constructive suggestions as to why that might be and how to
overcome such "issues."

2)  "Please only post messages and questions relating to making B&W
(monochrome) prints using digital techniques. This may sound rather
narrow but it can be very broad since it is impossible to discuss final
output without considering input in great detail. The discussion will
include all aspects of photography from image capture through final
print, but posters should make an effort to relate their posts to the
ultimate production of B&W prints."

I'm just guessing, but I think Photoshop has a MUCH more direct relation
to Digital B&W than, OH, I dunno, someone's personal history as a
sign-maker: 
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/8340
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or
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/7645
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Apparently, you agree, since you posted some Photoshop CS3 Beta
installation info yourself:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/8356
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If you want to continue to engage in personal attack, feel free to mail
me offlist - onliest is not the place for it (if you think thank-yous
don't belong onliest, then personal attacks certainly don't) .

I've been an active listmember since Martin established this list, and
YOU are not about to harass me into shutting up or leaving a list.

Try being polite, even if you just hate the "idea"of  one listmember
thanking another onliest:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/7758
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or
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/6986
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Got it?

For my part, you can now post all you want about me Gary. I've had my
say in response. For now, I'll simply take YOUR advice regarding posters
who thrive on personal negativity and ignore any personal attack posts
by you: in the hopes that you'll simply go away.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/6849
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