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[Digital BW] Re: Red River Polar Matte (was Moab Kayenta > Lasal ...)

2007-06-17 by Sergei Antonov

Out of curiosity I measured all matte papers that I have in house. I 
used X-Rite DTP20UV:

                L        a        b      R        G        B
------------------------------------------------------------------
PremierArtBW    94.14    1.05    -2.02   238.86   237.55   242.05
Moab Kayenta    96.16    0.49    -2.29   243.33   243.71   248.36
EEM             96.68   -0.28     0.61   245.25   245.55   244.21
Moab Entrada W  97.06    0.59    -0.83   247.13   246.16   248.14
Epson ScrapBook 96.87   -0.06     2.01   247.18   245.90   242.01
PremierArtFA    96.73    0.06     2.03   247.03   245.42   241.63
------------------------------------------------------------------

Results are a bit of surprise for me: I thought that PremierArtBW
is actually brighter than PremierArtFA (205), or that EEM will have 
the most neutral tone from all measured papers.

--Sergei

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Neilsen" 
<e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
>
> I have been using PM for years and haven't seen it yellow. Now I 
can't speak
> to the new PM, but I have not seen any reports that suggest that it 
did or
> will. Why would anyone put EEM and PM in the same sentence about 
yellowing?
> Sure you can have a concern about brighteners and whiteness, but 
why imply
> yellowing unless you've seen it?
> 
>  
> 
> Eric Neilsen Photography
> 
> 4101 Commerce Street
> 
> Suite 9
> 
> Dallas, TX 75226
> 
> http://e.neilsen.home.att.net
> 
> http://ericneilsenphotography.com
> 
> Skype ejprinter
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
djon43
> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 8:37 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Red River Polar Matte (was Moab Kayenta > 
Lasal
> ...)
> 
>  
> 
> Polar Matte is as white as Kayenta, but it's very different 
otherwise.
> 
> Kayenta is two-sided, PM is one-sided. PM's surface seems identical 
to
> EEM whereas Kayenta is lightly grained (I've not yet seen Lasal). 
> 
> PM is even whiter than EEM, cause for concern...will it yellow even
> more rapidly than EEM? In my experience EEM starts yellowing in 
months
> whereas Kayenta has shown no evidence in the two years I've used it.
> 
> Moab Entrada Bright, is not as extremely white as Polar Matte is 
said
> to be more resistant to yellowing than many whitened cotton papers
> because it's not AS white as they are. That was considered by Moab
> when they created the paper. 
> 
> Some say alpha-cellulose has a whiteness permanance advantage over
> cotton because it's not whitened in the same way...it isn't a
> fundamentally non-white (natural/cream) paper the way cotton papers
> all are. 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhit
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "alistair_owens"
> <owens@> wrote:
> >
> > Does the coating have brighteners? I guess it must have to 
achieve the 
> > bright white.
> >
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
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>

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