Digital BW, The Print

So has anyone compared the new MIS "double Density" black with the older standard MIS black?

Tim A
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ruhrfoto@yahoo.de 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 2:48 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: MIS Inks with Piezo Software


  Martin,

  did you get my offline-message some hours ago about using the 
  Piezo driver and MIS FS inks (and BTW did you get my offline 
  infos about Hahnemühle Photo Rag?? - I got no answer)?

  If you followed the MIS web site in the last months you surely 
  recognized that they anounced a set of "Cone/PIEZO 
  REPLACEMENT INKs" in spring. They never answered my 
  inquiries in this regard, and later that anouncement disappeared 
  from their website to make place for the anouncement of the 
  "FULL SPECTRUM INKs" (Synonym for Continuous Tone!?)
  Nevertheless on their "News"-link you can find the following 
  plans for the year 2001 (from Jan 4,2001):

  "Jan 4, 2001 - Plans for 2001
  Last year started with the Y2K challenge, not. This year, 2001, 
  should be an exciting year. We started several projects last year 
  and finished some of them, but many will come to fruition this 
  year. Here is a list of our active projects. We can not guarantee 
  completion dates or total success, but we wanted you to know 
  what may lie ahead. 
  *      Replacement Inks for the Piezography System at $52 per set...
  ........."

  So I assume, the FULL SPECTRUM INKs were developed as 
  Cone replacement inks, but who knows.... now that they are on 
  the market, lets try what we can do with them...

  I myself got my set aof MIS FS inks yesterday and installed them 
  with CIS on my second 1160 (backup) printer without any 
  problems (no clogging though I didn´t use cleaning carts)
  I printed a Piezo image on my first 1160 with piezo inks then 
  swapped to the MIS printer and printed the same image with MIS 
  inks using the Piezo Driver. 
  Surprise (or not?):
  Prints were nearly identicall at the first attempt. MIS inks printed a 
  bit more contrasty (seems even sharper), but after a small 
  amount of curve adjustments both prints were rather identical. 
  But MIS inks have a slight cooler tint.
  My Piezo inks never printed green, so I wouldn´t use this green  
  vs. neutral comparison. But my Piezo inks are warmer than the 
  MIS inks, that is obvious.
  I´m looking forward to getting more experiences.
  Main question - how will the prints look in some weeks??
  Is the ink as archival as Cone ink?
  I´m curious.
  Bernd



  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., mwesley250@e... 
  wrote:
  > I noticed on the MIS site under "News" the mention that the Full 
  > Spectrum quad inks can be use with either the Epson driver 
  using John 
  > Woolf's workflow or with the Piezo driver.
  > 
  > They said,
  > 
  > "We had some confusion on the workflow by John Woolf. It has 
  been 
  > corrected now. Thank you for your patience. If you use this with 
  the 
  > Epson driver, it makes great quad tone prints. The Full 
  Spectrum inks 
  > will work with either the Epson driver or the Cone driver."
  > 
  > Can someone give some first hand reports comparing the MIS 
  FS inks 
  > and Piezo inks with the Piezo driver? Is this a less expensive 
  way to 
  > get ink for your Piezo system?
  > 
  > Martin Wesley


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