Digital BW, The Print

Why does anyone like "E" surface..which was specifically sold to labs
in the beginning as something to please your grandmother and allow
labs to use cheaper less-well-trained technicians...it didn't show
fingerprints. I remember that intro very clearly, when KODAK rolled it
out, followed closely by Ilford's disgusting (!)"Pearl" surface. 

Folks learned to love it, much like Paris Hilton, just as they got
used to film damage by minilabs...now they actively like that surface,
and even like RC paper...Red River's quite open about why they're
selling E.

On the other hand, their N surface RC is CHEAP, which is a big value.
Can't imagine it rivals alpha-cellulose matte for beauty, but again,
some folks do like RC for their own reasons. ECCCH!

John


 --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven
Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@...> wrote:
>
> I did notice they said that. At least they're bieng straight with us on 
> that point. As for the remaining OBA's, some seem to hold up better 
> than others. Photo Rag has OBA's, and and you pointed out many other 
> papers, but a number of them don't yellow over time the way some RC 
> papers do. I'd be curious to know if that's a function of the OBA's not 
> burning off as quickly, or simply not yellowing as they do burn off.
> For me the test is going to be the very scientific (NOT!) but brutal 
> Florida Room test. It's warm, humid, and brightly (but indirectly) lit; 
> if a paper makes it a month in here without yellowing, it's worth 
> further testing. So far my champ in RC papers has been Sunset semi-
> matte, sold by Lexjet; It has outlasted E-prem. semi-matte, which 
> generally gets pretty high Wilhelm numbers. Problem is, the base color 
> is very cold, in a particulalry bothersome cyan-blue direction, so I'm 
> still looking.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Steven Karafyllakis
> 
>  
> > 
> > Hi Lou, RR's UP Satin 2.0 _is_ a nice paper, but it's not acid-free.
> > The base itself is acid-free, but the coating is acidic. 
> > 
> > (The only paper that I'm aware of that takes PK inks, is completely
> > OBA-free and acid-free is Crane Museo Silver Rag.)
> > 
> > Eric
> >
>