Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "djon43" 
<djon43@...> wrote:
>
> Steve...I'm confused...are you saying you're using Ultrapro Satin E 
in
> some situations? 

No, I haven't tried the Ultrapro yet in any surface. I'm currently 
using Lexjet Sunset semi-mat which has almost no texture (which I 
like) but is too cold, which I don't like. I'm saying, that 
considering most if not all of my work gets displayed under glass, 
all other things being (more or less) equal I'm willing to put up 
with the stipple of an E surface in exchange for a warmer base color 
that matches matt board better.
> 
> More confusion...are you saying Innova's Ultrasmooth Gloss is an RC
> paper or are you saying you like it better than RC papers?

No, of course its not an RC paper, I'm just noting that it has (to my 
eyes) the most attractive surface of any PK paper, RC or cotton.
> 
> What printer/ink are you using? Have you compared to Kirkland 
Glossy?

An R1800 with MIS K4 inks, and a 3800 with the OEM inks. Yes, I've 
tried Kirkland, who hasn't at this point? For B&W work it 
doesn't 'ring my bell' but I use a lot of it to proof my commercial 
work, with MIS dye inks in an R340.
> 
> I don't think Kirkland is RC (am I mistaken?).

Yes, it's an RC, it simply has a thicker cellulose base and thinner 
resin coating than some, so it feels less 'plasticky'

> It's certainly among
> the whitest papers I've used or seen, though not as white as my
> favored cheap matte, the old Moab Kayenta, which is now being 
renamed
> something else and enjoying a price drop. 

That bright-white is exactly what I'm trying to get away from, or at 
least the bluish bright-white of RC with excessive OBAs. We'll see 
how it turns out with the Ultrapro-who knows, maybe they have a semi-
matte or soft gloss in the pipeline at Red River.


Steven Karafyllakis