Digital BW, The Print

What is your point

Vinny
www.wulfsden.com


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "djon43"
<djon43@...> wrote:
>
> Why does anyone like "E" surface..which was specifically sold to labs
> in the beginning as something to please your grandmother and allow
> labs to use cheaper less-well-trained technicians...it didn't show
> fingerprints. I remember that intro very clearly, when KODAK rolled it
> out, followed closely by Ilford's disgusting (!)"Pearl" surface. 
> 
> Folks learned to love it, much like Paris Hilton, just as they got
> used to film damage by minilabs...now they actively like that surface,
> and even like RC paper...Red River's quite open about why they're
> selling E.
> 
> On the other hand, their N surface RC is CHEAP, which is a big value.
> Can't imagine it rivals alpha-cellulose matte for beauty, but again,
> some folks do like RC for their own reasons. ECCCH!
> 
> John
> 
> 
>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven
> Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@> wrote:
> >
> > I did notice they said that. At least they're bieng straight with
us on 
> > that point. As for the remaining OBA's, some seem to hold up better 
> > than others. Photo Rag has OBA's, and and you pointed out many other 
> > papers, but a number of them don't yellow over time the way some RC 
> > papers do. I'd be curious to know if that's a function of the
OBA's not 
> > burning off as quickly, or simply not yellowing as they do burn off.
> > For me the test is going to be the very scientific (NOT!) but brutal 
> > Florida Room test. It's warm, humid, and brightly (but indirectly)
lit; 
> > if a paper makes it a month in here without yellowing, it's worth 
> > further testing. So far my champ in RC papers has been Sunset semi-
> > matte, sold by Lexjet; It has outlasted E-prem. semi-matte, which 
> > generally gets pretty high Wilhelm numbers. Problem is, the base
color 
> > is very cold, in a particulalry bothersome cyan-blue direction, so
I'm 
> > still looking.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Steven Karafyllakis
> > 
> >  
> > > 
> > > Hi Lou, RR's UP Satin 2.0 _is_ a nice paper, but it's not acid-free.
> > > The base itself is acid-free, but the coating is acidic. 
> > > 
> > > (The only paper that I'm aware of that takes PK inks, is completely
> > > OBA-free and acid-free is Crane Museo Silver Rag.)
> > > 
> > > Eric
> > >
> >
>