Digital BW, The Print

Aren't you thinking of the FB Matte paper?

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Mark
Savoia
Sent: 07 September 2007 20:21
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Anyone try Harman Gloss FB AL?


He forgot to mention how easily it scratches.
Mark


On Sep 7, 2007, at 3:14 PM, flyflightdeck wrote:

> Heard some good things about it over at
> largeformatphotography.info.Wondering if anyone in this group has
> tried it.Here is the quote Jack Flesher wrote about it over there.
>
> "My friend Jim Collum called me a few days ago and said, "Jack, you
> need to try this new paper now!"
>
> The paper is the new Harman Inkjet "Gloss FB AL." So I went to my
> local shop, picked up a box yesterday and set to profiling it for my
> Epson 3800.
>
> The first thing you notice is the paper's surface -- identical to
> air-dried fiber-base silver, with a slight egg-shell finish and soft
> gloss. Sweet. Next thing you notice is this paper even smells like
> traditional silver paper. (Seriously!) Finally, it has a slightly warm
> white base.
>
> This paper is thick and also swells when the ink hits it, so I needed
> to set my paper thickness up a notch (4 on the 3800 driver) and
> platten gap to "wide" to avoid head-strikes on the wet surface. Once
> all that was settled I printed the profiling targets, let it dry down
> over-night and built the profile this morning.
>
> I am now sitting here admiring my standard large paper evaluation
> print -- a color test image (available for download at digital outback
> photo), and a long tonal range B&W image, doubled up and printed
> together on a single 13x19 sheet.
>
> As for B&W, in the black patches I can distinguish patch 4 (4/4/4 rgb)
> from 0 and 6, and in the white patches I can distinguish 253 from 255
> and 252. (I can sense 254 is different from the surrounds, but can't
> really "see" it as its own tone.) Anyway, this is incredible tonal
> range, and of course is all present in the B&W image -- pure, deep
> blacks with outstanding shadow detail all the way through to
> delicately detailed highlights. Amazing.
>
> As for color, I was frankly surprised -- it is excellent too. There is
> a specific image of strawberries in the color test print that
> reproduce to the most delicious I've seen from any paper yet All other
> colors are exceptionally well represented too, including a blue sky
> gradient, foliage yellows and greens and a difficult metallic bronze.
>
> Now for the better news: There is NO gloss differential and NO visible
> metamerism anywhere on the print!
>
> Lastly, the "AL" in the paper name stands for "alumina," a reference
> to the fact there is aluminum in the substrate -- ostensibly it's
> there to emulate the slight metallic "glow" present in a
> silver-gelatin print. And yes, I saved the best news for last, they
> accomplished that feat. There is indeed a subtle metallic glow that
> adds traditional silver depth to the final print.
>
> This is amazing stuff folks; I have found my paper."
>
> More info here: http://www.harman-inkjet.com/pressroom/article.asp?
> n=63
>
>
>
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