Digital BW, The Print

I am not denigrating any of these recommended plugin products, but
would like to share my own experience.  After buying various plugins
over the years, I enrolled for a series of Photoshop  classes at my
local Junior college and have discovered that you can learn to do
almost any effect done with these, and with much finer control,with
the latest version of Photoshop. A bonus is that as a student, Adobe
offers substantial discounts on their products, which can be pricey. 
But then most plugins are pricey, and you just get them, not all the
features you get with Photoshop.  No, I don't work for Adobe.
Just a suggestion.
John
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "the_des_bois"
<thedesbois@...> wrote:
>
> Eric,
> 
> Thanks I'll sure take a look at Imagenomic before upgrading to AS Exp.
> 2. :)
> 
> Denis
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "E Neilsen"
> <e.neilsen2@> wrote:
> >
> > Denis, For the price of alien skin's exposure 2, one could buy the
whole
> > suite of imagenomic suite. IMHO, I think a much better deal but not
> having
> > played with it I can't say for sure.  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Eric Neilsen Photo
> > 
> > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> > 
> > Dallas, TX 75226
> > 
> > 214 827-8301
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > http://ericneilsenphotography.com
> > 
> > SKype ejprinter
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   _____  
> > 
> > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > the_des_bois
> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:35 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Creating grain
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I would take a look at 
> > http://www.alienski <http://www.alienskin.com/exposure/>
n.com/exposure/
> > 
> > I have this and it simulates most of the BW films of the past. You can
> > even control grain size and distribution in high/mid/low zones.
> > 
> > Denis
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhit
> > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> > eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "pglombick"
> > <glombick@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am trying a new direction in my photography and am wondering what 
> > > some of the better ways of creating digital "grain" are.
> > > 
> > > Here are my sepcifics:
> > > 
> > > shooting with D200, ususally ISO 100 or 200, mostly landscapes and
> urban
> > > PS CS2
> > > R2400 (K3, papers: VFA and Museo PR), R2200 (K7, Hahnemuehle Museum 
> > > Etching)
> > > 
> > > I used to shoot Iflord Delta 3200 a few years ago when I was
using an 
> > > FM2 or a FM3a and liked the results. I have tried using the "add
> noise" 
> > > function in PS but am rather confused as to the differences between 
> > > normal and Gaussian and was unable to produce something I liked. I
> also 
> > > tried using the ISO 400 setting on a Fred Mirando BWPRO PS add-in I 
> > > have, but I want more grain than it can produce.
> > > 
> > > Any suggestions? I am unsure whether I should shoot at ISO 1600 in
> the 
> > > camera or create grain using other methods in Photoshop. Also,
> does one 
> > > sharpen before or after adding grain?
> > > 
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
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