Digital BW, The Print

Jerry,

perhaps you could post this on the new archival color list at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/archivalcolor

If anything, it would be more even more relevant there than this bw list. 

Antonis


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> JF-
> 
> When I first got my 1280, it came with epson's newly formulated ink
> (dye). I used the ink to make many colorful art prints, and a few test
> prints that I put in a South Window that gets sunlight all day. After a
> month, there was no noticeable fading at all compared to a dark storage
> print of the same image. The image was full of brilliantly colored
> objects on a blue and cyan background... Absolutely no difference in the
> two prints.  We have never had any orange shift problems in North Dakota
> that I'm aware of. I would think that under glass in a low light
> environment the colors wouldn't fade for many years. I've tried the same
> print with Generations and MIS inks for 3 months in a sunny south
> window, with no fading. The Epson Archival Matte paper on which these
> prints were made did turn a slightly buff color in the areas that had no
> image on them, but the colors themselves didn't change. 
> 
> This is an extreme test, as nobody is going to display any work of art
> in bright sunlight, I hope!
> 
> If a print can withstand 3 months in the sun with little or no fading,
> That inkset is good enough for me. It's probably as good as we're going
> to get now. I'm sure it will get better in the future.
> 
> I'm about to order a set of Generations 5 inks and a new 1280 printer,
> and I don't think I'll even be concerned about print longevity again.
> I've gone though as many tests as I plan on going through, and now I'm
> just going to print.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> . After printing several
> > beautiful 8x10s from an Epson 880, with the original Epson cartridge,
> > in color, and leaving them out on a lawn chair in the sun for 10
> > days, day and night, I see zero fading or degradation of any kind.
> > None. 'Even one unexpected rainstorm failed to deteriorate the prints.
> 
> > Have I missed a point regarding potential fading here ?
> 
> No the new epson inks are much better than the previous ones. You should
> see what prints from the first epsons look like. Totally worthless, even
> those in dark storage!
> 
> I really do doubt that any dye inks are going to last anywhere near as
> long as the Generations 5 inks or the MIS archival pigment inks though.