Digital BW, The Print

Yes, this is what I've tried and while it looks fine viewed by itself
it pales next to the Epson dye black.

Actually, I think I am going to give the Lyson a go. I'm hoping the
issues you mention are more of a problem with glossy media.
I'll report back!

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
<list@...> wrote:
>
> I think you might be surprised at the dmax and "pop" of the Eboni 3- 
> MK prints from your 1800.  Since you already have the right printer,  
> ink, and QTR why not give it a try?  If you are thinking of trying  
> the Lyson B&W dye inks I'd urge you to stay far away.  They exhibit  
> very bad metamerism and have poor fade resistance.
> 
> Carl
> 
> On Oct 23, 2007, at 7:00 PM, i_3d_c wrote:
> 
> >
> > I'm using Eboni black right now, which this set also uses. So it's
> > hard to imaging that switching would give me significantly greater
> > d-max. I've done a lot of testing and I think I've really exhausted
> > the pigment options. I'm really now looking for a multi-grey *dye* ink
> > set.
> >
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Charles Becker
> > <gypyjunior@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Go to www.inksupply.com and then B&W printing and the UTBO
> > (Ultratone Black Only) inks are made for the Epson R1800. Excellent
> > results, better then other B&W inksets I have tried. They also have
> > some good "Help Topics" for B&W printing.
> >>   Best, Charles
> >>
> >>
> >> i_3d_c <ichristie@> wrote:
> >>
> >> My first inkjet printer was the Epson 1270.
> >> I scanned some of my old 4x5 negs and printed them on Archival Matte
> >> paper. I fell completely in love with the results, which was a little
> >> puzzling because I had read that the 1270 wasn't really that great  
> >> for
> >> B&W. I thought I'd like to get more serious about this B&W printing
> >> thing so I bought an Epson r1800 and dedicated greyscale inks. And  
> >> was
> >> disappointed. After hours & hours of testing with different papers  
> >> and
> >> settings (and QTR) I just couldn't achieve the look I had fallen in
> >> love with with the 1270. Long story short, pigment inks just can't
> >> achieve the same d-max as dyes.
> >>
> >> Assuming that I'm not interested in my prints lasting hundreds of
> >> years -- a couple of decades would be nice -- are there any printers
> >> or 3rd party inksets that have greyscale dye inks?
>