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Re: [Digital BW] I think I want to go back to dye ink.

2007-10-25 by James Irelan

For what it's worth, Lyson Fotonics clogged way past an acceptable  
level in my 7600.  This was on a new print head, after I had a  
disastrous experience with their Caves, which I decided was not the  
ink's fault, and so tried the Fotonics which had just then come out  
for the 7600.  If I wasn't the first to use them, I certainly was one  
of the first.  And maybe the only one :  )  And they looked good,  
when they worked, which I decided wasn't often enough.  I would have  
to run cleaning cycles from one print to the next. I went to MIS pros  
and had virtually no clogging problems.

As far as longevity goes, they faded on un-glassed prints in less  
than a year in dry Arizona.  A framed glass print, however, still  
looks unfaded now several years later.  I know that this discussion  
is about b&w inks, but thought that I'd throw my experience out for  
what it's worth.  Simply put, I'll never buy anything that says Lyson  
on it again.  Too bad;  when I first started printing with inkjet,  
Lyson was the first third party ink manufacturer that I became aware  
of, and therefore a leader in the field, as far as I knew.  Today  
their esteem has fallen badly, at least in my eyes.

James



On Oct 25, 2007, at 4:06 PM, john dean wrote:

> Assuming that I'm not interested in my prints lasting hundreds of
> years -- a couple of decades would be nice -- are there any printers
> or 3rd party inksets that have greyscale dye inks?
>
> Yes, Lyson has specialized in this. They have been making an
> "archival" :-), neutral quad set and a tonable quad set called Small
> Gamut monochrome, for several years. And, by the way, they stink. The
> metamerism in incandescent light makes both of them unusable in my
> opinion and I spent a lot of money on this junk. And if you put them
> in an Epson printer and try to go back to pigments you'll most likely
> loose that printer to disasterous clogging.
>
> john
>
>
> 


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