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RE: [Digital BW] Epson's court victory

2007-11-02 by E Neilsen

Then a clear winner will be the first company that markets a chip free
printer. One that accepts whatever inks one wants to load and perhaps
bundled with a profiling kit, say a ???,  See what kind of traction it gains
while Epson, and perhaps HP and Canon tag along, before the realize they
will be fighting a losing battle. If they want to act like we'll all go
along because we need to, the review mirror will get full awfully fast for
Epson et la. 

 

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Jay
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 1:07 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson's court victory

 

Would not the sudden unavailabilty of carts, lead to more people buying in
bulk, chip setters and CIS systems so the revenue lost from cart sales will
be made up sales of the mentioned items. I imagine someone from the 3rd
party ink sales industry will have to weigh in on this. 

Also, have not other manufacturers, of software, music, clothing and watches
sued to have the importation of pirated copyrighted and patented items
banned. If this action is to protect epson's patented delivery systems it is
their right to protect their investments .We do not like people using our
copyrighted materials without permisson nor do any artists. But, I have
great faith in American and Chinese ingenuity. Someone will come up with a
way and alter the basic structure of the cart so it falls outside of the
law's jurisdiction. Personally, I mailed out the letter and email today to
the president, and my congressment as well as the two senators in NJ. This
was done snail mail and email. 
Frank in NJ

Tyler Boley <tyler@tylerboley. <mailto:tyler%40tylerboley.com> com> wrote:
My intention with the initial post was to get the information out
there, this is huge for some of us, and I hoped that would result in
others interested in keeping this form of printing alive might do the
letter writing or whatever they can. I have no idea where or not it
will help, it certainly can't hurt. Thanks to Paul and other we now
have more information on how best to be affective.
I have long ranted there should be a secondary line of printers for us
that are unchipped and priced so their viability does not depend on
ink sales. Of course that won't happen at the desktop level.

But more directly, here's how it "may" impact bulk ink availability.
It's safe to assume that a huge part of income for these small
companies is sales of carts. One can imagine that those sales are a
larger amount than their total margin. 
A sudden end to cart sales may mean a sudden start to debt
accumulation for them.
Therefore, without a way to quickly adapt, downsize, or find another
high volume product to quickly take it's place, the companies
themselves may bag it entirely, and therefore no more ink...

All the peripheral discussion about politics etc, while no doubt
sincere, should not deflect us from sitting down and writing the
letters. That's the deal.
Then... come what may... we did something rather than nothing.
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhit
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eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@...> wrote:
>
> >...
> > Assuming that the CIS continues to work properly, will
> > my ability to purchase inks be affected by this lawsuit?
> 
> I don't believe Epson will be able to stop third party bulk ink sales. 
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

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won't be chasing their own arses."
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