Digital BW, The Print

Jon,

 

I don’t know about the marketing topography of printers, but it seems that
this is not about that small segment that uses BW non-Epson inks. 

 

Why not make a deal with Epson? A certain segment of the population buys
Epson products because they can be used with Piezography. If this segment
cannot use Piezography, then they will not buy the associated Epson product.
There should be very little cannibalisation due to Piezography. Epson should
have much reason to be happy about Piezography. 

 

In any case, I am assuming that there will be a way to get Piezography inks
also in the future. The difference is what the user will think of Epson
every time she/he has to go through the hassle.

 

Regards,

 

Lars

 

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Fra: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] På vegne af Jon Cone
Sendt: 3. november 2007 04:49
Til: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Emne: [Digital BW] Re: for Jon Cone re:Epson's court victory

 

Frank,

Good question.

We are in Vermont. We have no sewage other than a septic field and our
water supply through a spring and a dug well. So we have to have a
zero-impact footprint at this location. And the problem with recycling
an original EPSON Ultrachrome color ink cartridge is the 3% dye EPSON
indicates they use on their MSDS. Dye prevents us from using water to
clean their color carts as dye can not be filtered economically from
waste water. 

While we can fill an EPSON brand 2400 color cartridge with our new
color ink, we can not clean it and fill it with Piezography ink. Not
here. That would make too much pollution. HOWEVER, and that's a big
however, we CAN refill an existing Piezography cartridge with
Piezography ink. That's not a problem and it's not illegal. Also our
cartridges are really sturdy and they were designed for refilling.
Would not make it a more expensive product either.

Chips can be reset for many many times and because the chip itself is
not in question and they are still able to be imported if needed. We
built our filling equipment to be low-impact so its easy to change
inks in about 3 minutes and the clean up uses a few ounces of water.
We're in a perfect position to do this.

regards,

Jon

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eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Frank Jay
<frankjay02@...> wrote:
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> 
> 
> Jon, 
> when I go target shooting and use wadcutters, I get a discount on
my pack of 50 when I return a pack of 50 spent shells. the shells can
be used I believe 4-5 times depending on how the metal holds up. The
reloader saves money, and I Make money...we are both happy. 
> If you, as a person in the ink business, were to give a dollar
amount credit if someone returns a used cart for a refilled cart, or
some process of that nature, how would that affect you as inkmaker and
us as end users. . Does'nt this law prohibit only new imports?
> 
> I do not know how many times a chip can be reset or a cart
re-loaded but could not some workaround be figured out using those
carts already in use in the US or is there a whole other more
complicated legal issue at play here.
> just my two cents
> Frank in NJ

 



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