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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson's court victory

2007-11-03 by John

Paul, I hope this may be of some use to you.

This is an extract from Epson’s “Dye” and “Pigment” inks MSDS for the Epson Stylus 1400. Look at the colour coded MSDS statements this is supposed to be a dye ink and the Colourants should completely solubilise in water.
Pigments and Particles don’t dissolve in water. The same thing goes for the Ultra-Chromes in reverse, that Ink also contains both dye and Pigments. If this is correct then these MSDS’s are not truthful – or Epson’s advertising is not truthful and under EU Regulations they could be refused entry into the EU. It may be possible to link this with the inability to “Re-use” Epson Carts which would be in breach of the EU “Reach Agreement”. This May be applicable in the US as I believe that CA has introduced something similar to the “Reach Agreement”? 
Should you want them I have a No. of the relevant MSDS’s and I posted the web access to the Reach Agreement the other day.
 
 
2.      Composition Information
         
         This is an aqueous ink formulation
 
                                                Ink Composition.                 CAS No.                                % By Weight
 
                                                Carbon Black                                        1333-86-4                                    < 3%
                                                Proprietary dyes and Pigments               -                                               < 5%
                                                Proprietary organic materials                  -                                              5 - 10%
                                                Glycerols                                                    -                                             10 - 15%
                                                Water                                                     7732-18-5                                  balence            
 
 
9.      Physical and Chemical Properties of ink formulation
 
            Appearance:                             Black Liquid
            Odor:                                         None
            pH:                                             9.0 – 10.0
            Boiling point:                          Approximately 212 deg.  F / 100deg. C
            Freezing point:                        Less than 32deg. F / 0 deg. C
            Melting point:                          Less than 32deg. F / 0 deg. C
            Flash point:                              Greater than 230 deg. F / 110deg. C (closed cup, ASTM D 3278)
            Autoflammability:                   None
            Explosive properties:             None
            Oxidizing properties:             None
            Vapor density:                         Greater than 1 (air = 1)
            Relative density:                      1.07 at 68 deg. F / 20 deg. C
            Solubility in water:                 Complete
            Solubility in fat:                      No data available
            Partition coefficient:              No data available
            Viscosity:                                  Less than 5 mPa-s                                                
 
11.    Toxicology and Health Hazards
 
         Routes Of Overexposure:       Eye, skin, inhalation, and oral
 
            Acute Health Hazards:
 
·               Overexposure of eye surface to ink may be mildly irritating
·               Overexposure of skin to ink contact may cause irritation and in some people swelling and redness
·               Intentional inhalation overexposure to ink vapours may result in respiratory tract irritation
·               Intentional or accidental oral ingestion may cause upset stomach



----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Roark <paul.roark@...>
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 3 November, 2007 7:54:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Epson's court victory

>I would assume that any petition or public statement by 
>end users should stress the environmental implications 
>of tossing used carts into the landfill.... 

In policy decisions everything goes into the mix, even if informally.
Everyone knows that, recycling programs notwithstanding, many will just
trash the little carts.

Pursue everything, including getting SSC or others to write software that
simply cuts out the chip entirely. Then let them try to stop acrylic boxes
with funnel holes that happen to fit into Epson large format printers.

Indirectly we should be negotiating a mutually-beneficial partnership with
Epson. High end B&W is a prestige niche. We want to use the printers, and
they want us to also. But, they want the whole business. They'll back down
if they think we'll just go over to Canon, HP, Kodak, or whoever, or that
otherwise their desire to get it all is simply not going to happen.

I held records for cases & litigations handled and never had to actually go
through a single trial. Rational people settle when you lay your cards on
the table in front of the client, demonstrate convincingly that you're going
to blow their ------- heads off if they go to trial, and offer them a
solution that gives everyone what they need. 

With luck Epson and this niche will find a solution that gives us and them
what we all need. 

Paul
www.PaulRoark. com 





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