Digital BW, The Print

I can vouch for the funnel fill carts.  I've had a set in my 4000 for  
about 1 1/2 years using MIS K4 inks.  I turned off the ink level  
monitoring in the printer and just top off the ink levels when I see  
them getting low.  Wonderful, carefree system and I've had no  
maintenance problems at all.

Carl

On Nov 3, 2007, at 8:34 PM, john dean wrote:

> No actually, that surprised me too, the 10K pressurized carts have the
> most pressure of them all, yet the "punctured" retrofitted carts by
> far out perform any cloned third party carts that still have that
> bladder seal intact. The only function that I can see for it is to
> keep someone from refilling the thing. Ernst figured that out a couple
> of years ago.
>
> My concern was some kind of leakage through the front, but once you
> replace the cap, with its rubber o ring seal back in place, all is
> perfect and it is sealed. I've never had one error message with them.
> You just reset the chip counter and it thinks it is oem.
>
> Of course funnel fill systems are just as good or better but for my
> 10K they are very expensive, not for smaller machines. The advantage
> of them would be seeing the ink levels without even having to resort
> to any chip reading or resetting at all and for smaller carts it would
> be much preferable to have a lot more ink in there and avoid the
> hassle of filling carts. If  you wanted you could turn off the entire
> chip reading mechanism in the firmware.
>
> john
>
>
>>
>> Does puncturing the backflow valve affect performance?
>>
>>
>>
>> My general impression was that the pressurized carts were an
> improvement in
>> some way over the others.  So, if we could keep all the advantages
> of the
>> carts and simply refill them, that might be better than these funnel
> fill
>> carts.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm assuming MIS must have some 3800 chips if they are looking for  
>> beta
>> testers.  They may be like the 260 chips - auto reset.  There are  
>> worse
>> things.  I just re-fill when they reset.
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   _____
>>
>> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of  
>> Ernst
>> Dinkla
>> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:24 PM
>> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Effect for Europe of US ruling on Epson
>> cartridges?
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul Roark wrote:
>>
>>> If we could refill 3800 and up carts, we would be probably be fine.
>>
>>> Ernst, do you have a system that works and you could share?
>>
>> I have no 3800 but isn't the chip resetting not the first
>> hurdle to take ? Didn't follow the messages on that subject
>> but I believe the resetters that could reset the 9600 +
>> 10000 and the later versions that reset the 9800 model do
>> not reset the 3800 chips. Hardware wise it is probably a
>> back flow valve that has to be punctured by a key hole
>> operation like needed for the 10000 and 9800 carts. John
>> Dean must have the instructions for that.
>>
>> -- 
>> Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst
>>
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