Digital BW, The Print

I agree about the Harmon.  I like it but could use a little less 
gloss.  It is certainly more glossy then my old darkroom prints.  I 
will use it for some things, though.  I hope people will give the 
Innova Semi Matte a try. I am having good luck without spraying it, 
which I can't say for the Ultrsmooth Gloss.  I am afraid if more 
don't try it, it will go away.

Peter

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
<tyler@...> wrote:
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "zonepeter" 
<zonepeter@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > There are alot of choices out there.  I am playing with this 
right now 
> > too.  
> > Just to add one more paper to the mix:  I think Innova Semi Matte 
is 
> > one of the most under appreciated papers out there.
> 
> absolutely, it's the only one so far that has the slightly less 
than glossy feel of an air dried 
> fiber. Perhaps just the slightest bit more gloss would have nailed 
it.
> 
> >  It has the d max 
> > of the gloss papers with less of a glossy finish.  As such, I 
think 
> > the deepest shadows are less likely to show a gloss 
differential.  It 
> > is not as smooth as the Harman or Innova ultra smooth, so this 
may be 
> > an issue for you.  I also think the Harman is a bit sharper and 
does 
> > separate shadows a little better.
> 
> But it just looks like a gloss to me. It's good, but the noise 
about it seems a bit too much.
> Take away the thick feel by matting it, and it's not terribley 
different from the standard 
> and extremely well priced Hawk Mountain Gloss I've had a bit of 
experience with.
> The Ilford name, the fiber in the title, and this whole alumina 
mystery seems to be the 
> selling points.
> 
> The Innova is really unique at this point, and under hyped. Very 
nice. John Dean has been 
> spraying it, and loves it.
> 
> Tyler
>