Digital BW, The Print

Eric,

I believe from 1.1 on Cataloging is an option.  I use it all the time on
various portable drives.

Paul


On 11/20/07 2:04 PM, "E Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:

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> While there are many nice things about LR, there are also some MAJOR
> disappointments. It may have become more stable with 1.3, but 1.2 was an
> unstable beast. It has limitations, and not to be over looked one, for
> cataloging an archive. If you have many large files that you¹d like to keep
> track of it may leave you wanting. As a processing tool it is very nice. As
> a data management/digital asset management tool I believe it has a long way
> to go. I continue to use it, though not much for B&W conversion as I use
> Real Grain to do much of that.
> 
> Eric Neilsen Photo
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> 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
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> Dallas, TX 75226
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> 214 827-8301
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> http://ericneilsenphotography.com
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> SKype ejprinter
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> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of James
> Haney
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:38 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Adobe Lightroom?
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> My opinion of Lightroom:
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> I have totally changed my workflow with Lightroom at the center.
> 
> Importing:
> I use it to import my images from my DF cards.
> In one step:
> Copy as DNG to a main folder defined for the current year
> Lightroom automatically creates a folder here named however you
> want, but I have it make a folder named YYYY-MM-DD
> (Lightroom automatically determines the correct entries for these
> date values.)
> Renames in coming files using capture date and unique ID
> (you can define this a million different ways to suit your
> purposes as user-defined presets)
> Make a backup copy to a server directory (or another drive etc.)
> Apply a basic set of values as a good baseline
> I include copyright, date, my name, address, phone, web address, etc.
> Batch apply and embed meta-data and keywords
> I quick-tag using the subject of the shoot or anything that
> applies to the whole shoot
> At this point they are represented in the Lightroom database as a
> Folder
> 
> Reviewing:
> I move through the shoot either promoting or demoting individual
> images. (Flags)
> (Keyboard command to batch-delete demoted images)
> Multiple, powerful compare modes help select the best images
> 
> Rough edit, visualization
> At this point, I use one of the most powerful tools of the system, I
> create VIrtual Copies of the images I want to convert to black and
> white.
> A virtual copy is a set of meta-data that points to the original
> image source data, but filters it through a separate set of values.
> This Virtual Copy I open in the Develop module where I convert it
> to Black and White, apply sharpening, cropping, rotation, and a
> million other options. - This Virtual copy is not a duplicate of the
> source image, it is just a set of XML data that specifies how to
> process the file. each virtual copy takes up about 32k of space and
> there is no limit to how many you have.
> 
> I put the Virtual Copies for the project into a Lightroom Collection.
> This is just a shopping basket of sorts that allows you to group a
> set of images (or Virtual Copies) into a manageable and meaningful set.
> 
> Batch export for review
> Export rough edited images as jpegs (or any other format) if I need
> to show them to clients or to post on the web. Lightroom has some
> absolutely amazing Web export modules.
> 
> Production
> I use the tools in the Lightroom Develop module to do all of my
> global color and tone control.
> High light and shadow point setting (Levels)
> Basic tone curves
> B&W conversion
> Capture sharpening
> This is done with a very critical eye. The tools in this module are
> basically identical to those in Adobe Camera Raw, but I think work
> better and are far more easily accomplished in the context of the
> Lightroom interface.
> 
> Export to Photoshop
> Every tool has its purpose and its limits.
> Even though you can do cloning in Lightroom, it is only useful for
> very basic edits.
> I do all local, regional or pixel based editing in Photoshop.
> 
> I control-click on the image in LR and choose "Edit with Photoshop"
> This presents me with a dialog box where I choose "Edit a Copy with
> Lightroom adjustments", "16 bit TIFF" and "Stack with Original"
> You end up with a TIFF image in the same folder as the source
> image. You can specify how you want LR to name files that it creates.
> I append "_v01" to the end of the name.
> The file opens as an RGB TIFF file in PS. (If your image was
> converted to pure black and white in LR then Red, Green, and Blue
> values are all identical. conversion to Greyscale will not change the
> tone of the images) Discussion of LR split toning is another discussion)
> All of your LR adjustments have been applied to this image, so it
> will look just like it did in LR.
> I created a Photoshop action that:
> Converts to Greyscale
> Creates some basic curve layers that I always use with the names I
> want them to have
> Now I am off to the races!
> 
> In PS I have way more control of the image, I can softproof (not
> available in LR), etc.
> 
> When you save the file and go back to LR you will find a new image in
> the folder, and collection you were in before. This is the TIFF file
> you created.
> 
> You can re-open it from LR with "Edit with Photoshop" and choose
> instead "Edit Original." This will launch the TIFF version.
> 
> Interestingly, you can make additional edits using Lightroom Develop
> tools on the B&W TIF file. This gets a little strange and complicated
> to understand but basically, it just works!
> 
> In previous version of Lightroom I could not get QuadTone RIP to
> print properly. However, suddenly, with version 1.3, I use the QTR-
> RGB profile and I can use the truly outstanding Print module of
> Lightroom to print individual files, groups of images, crop on the
> fly without changing the image in Photoshop, without even opening the
> file in Photoshop.
> 
> If I sound like a true believer, I am.
> 
> I spend so much more of my time editing and producing images and far,
> far less time managing files, creating scripts, investigating various
> tools and re-inventing my process every 2 months to incorporate an
> change in technology.
> 
> In my portrait work, I used to spend 2 hours getting a batch of
> images imported, renamed, in iView, tagged with meta-data, roughly
> edited to make them presentable and exported to the software I use
> for client presentation and editing. I used three Applescripts, a
> shareware program and iView Media Pro. Now this is all done in about
> 15 minutes, with one program.
> 
> I have used all of the RGB-B&W conversion utilities out there and
> there is nothing that is any better than the tools in LR in my
> opinion. But that is just the tip of the iceberg.
> 
> Besides purchasing Photoshop, Lightroom is the best money I have ever
> spent on software.
> 
> my 40¢
> 
> James Haney
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