Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley"
<tyler@...> wrote:
>
> John, here are some paper base LAB measurements from recent F type
> papers introduced on the market.

I want to amend this as I just got my hands on some of the Ilford Gold
Fiber Silk, which is paper not cloth, not silky, not suitable shirt
material, or anything remotely resembling silk or any other product of
worms. By I digress and found my meds.

Hahnemuhle FineArt Baryta- 99.9, 1.2, -3.7
Hahnemuhle PhotoRag Pearl- 98.5, 0.1, 1.6
Harman Glossy FB AI- 99.9, 0.2., -3.0
Innova FibaPrint Ultra Smooth Gloss- 97.7, 1.2, -5.4
Innova FibaPrint F-Type White Semi-Matte- 97.7, 0.8, -3.6
Ilford Gold Fiber Silk- 99.8, 0.1, -0.6

Ilford may have nearly nailed it. It's not blue, the surface is the
closest to that sweet spot I've yet seen, and as Mark said it smells
like fixer which is surely a stroke of marketing genius.
The other paper I'm liking more and more is the PhotoRag Pearl.
Also, Silver Rag has grown in my esteem as it's holding up over time
and a lot of beautiful prints are being made on it.
All this new marketing stuff like baryta and aluminum and fiber may be
diverting our attention.
Also, the F-type Gloss Warmtone is worth considering. I too quickly
lost interest when I saw the paper, the warmth of the base seem a bit
much when you see the bare sheet. Since then I've seen a lot of prints
on it and they were all beautiful.
Tyler

> 
> Clearly the tendency with the new F paper is for a cool base, probably
> from too may OBAs. Only the PhotoRag Pearl, a very different sort of
> paper than theothers, is a bit to the warm side of white. It's pretty
> nice stuff actually, but let's lose that pearl eh? Never liked any
> pearl papers ever...
> Tyler
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean"
> <deanwork2003@> wrote:
> >
> > Is it as cold white as the Innova Fiber Gloss full of oba? That is my
> > only problem with the Innova Satin, the bluish white of its base just
> > isn't practical for my black and white work.
> > 
> > john
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Art Haseltine
> > <arturo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill,
> > > I also find the /Harman FB Al Gloss/ to be too glossy. I have been
> > using 
> > > /Moab Colorado Fiber Gloss/ (Legion) 
> > > http://www.moabpaper.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=122 
> > >
<http://www.moabpaper.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=122>
> > > It's the closest I can find to a darkroom fiber paper.
> > > Art
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Fine-Art in Black-and-White --- www.fotosea.com
> > >    Kite Aerial Photography --- www.kapsnap.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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