Digital BW, The Print

Hello Steve,

  I have been waiting for a couple of months that MIS would make
available refillable carts for the Epson 3800. I recently learned that
they are having problems with the chips and/or chip resetter and that
the availability of such carts is being delayed by months.
Therefore, although reluctantly, I decided to adopt your method of
empty a brand new OEM cartridge (what a waste!).
I tried to such the original ink from the cartridge using a singe and
a bottom fill adapter. This was easy, even without prying the plastic
collar as you suggested. Of course, I was not able to refill the
cartridge. Before proceeding with the refill technique you have
suggested, there are three things I would like to make sure I
understand:  
1) Once you have removed the spring and the ball under the rubber
gasket, do you need to place them back after the refill is concluded?
2) Can I refill the cart freely or do I need to puncture the one way
valve as in the larger format pressurized carts? 
3) Do you need to put back in place the withe plastic collar at the
end of the operation?

We have a brand new 3800 sitting in its box since 11 months waiting
for the MIS inks and now we need to use it. We just hate the rendition
of Epson inks on the paper we use.

Thank you very much,

Regards,

  Daniela


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones"
<cj@...> wrote:
>
> Steve asked me to post this for him because he's having a browser
> problem and can't post to the forum.
> - cj
> 
> 
> >any following to your first attempt at resetting 3800 cartridges? I
> >am very ansious to test the Eboni ink with that printer.
> 
> 
> Hello Daniela;
> 
> Regrets, but no, I have made no progress with the resetter. I did
> figure out how to refill the carts though, so you could pull out the
> Epson MK ink and fill it with Eboni if you're really up for an
> adventure. It is MESSY: you have to pry of the plastic collar that
> keeps the rubber gasket in place at the ink outlet port. Then you can
> get a bottom-fill adapter in it (you can probably start with this, I
> think you can suck out ink regardless) and suck out the ink. There's a
> small spring under the gasket that I think keeps a plastic ball in
> proper place (I didn't realize it was there and lost it) to either
> allow ink out, or dis-allow ink in. Once you have the ink out, you
> gently pull the rubber gasket out, and then tap out the spring and
> ball onto a piece of paper towel. At that point you can easily refill
> the cart, and reverse the above steps to put it in working order. It's
> good that the carts are fairly big, I wouldn't want to go through all
> this too often!
> 
> Best Luck,
> 
> Steve
>