Sarah, I expect MIS to mix and sell this inkset. It can use QTR or the Epson driver with or without an ICC. I think the most elegant workflow is the Epson driver with an ICC using Create ICC. I don't know if MIS will load the inkset in carts, but then we don't know if there are carts in our future. At any rate, as a bulk inkset it'll be useable in carts, CISs, and large format printers. The standard densities can be set up in any number of ways. The LLLK is not really needed in modern printers, but I have a default setup on my PDF. It's just a place to start and a way to have some uniformity, but lots of creative people will probably use these inks as just part of a more flexible setup using a rip. Paul www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/> _____ From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Renkes Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 5:50 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Eboni-6 inkset - Bases Paul, I'm missing something....are you saying this inkset will be sold on MIS (say, for my 2200)? Or is this something we'd have to mix ourselves. Plus, I don't use Create-ICC (tech naif), only QTR profiles. But would that be something I'd have to get into in order to use Eboni-6? thank you, Sarah --- In DigitalBlackandWhit <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> wrote: > > This is just an update on this approach, and note on warmth and wetting > agent. > > > > The inkset is looking like it'll be good for most 3 pico liter and larger > Epson printers. While the older large format printers were the original > target, the 1440 Epson driver + Create-ICC quality and ease are such that > this'll work on about anything. The updated PDF is at > http://www.paulroar <http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf> k.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf > > > > I think I've made the final base decision, and it's been running well enough > for several months now that I think it's ready for production. I have not > heard a date from MIS as to when it'll be on the web page. I recommend bulk > only sales at first. > > > > Obviously, getting a warm print from carbon pigments is easy. Getting one > that is neutral enough for me to be happy with the way clouds and snow look > has been the problem. Specifically, holding down the maximum Lab B is the > trick. There are several papers that do it fine with the final mix. So, > it's done as far as I'm concerned. > > > > There is a way to lower the Lab B slightly more. The bare bones base I make > from 4 parts water to 3 parts glycerol is the coolest printing base. The > Eboni-LK made with this hits a maximum Lab B=0.7 on Premier Art Smooth BW, > as opposed to the 1.6 for the base that will be used in the MIS version. > With the lighter inks the difference is less. As such, an actual inkset > for most uses would have such a small difference that it's just not worth > messing with. > > > > The difference is probably due to the lack of wetting agent. When Photo Flo > is added to the glycerol base, the warmth jumps up to the production base > numbers. There is a trade off between smoothness and warmth. The model of > the warmth coming from the relatively transparent circumference still holds. > While I will probably do no more with this, those who want the > coolest-printing and cheapest dilute Eboni inkset can mix from this > home-made base. It'll probably still be smooth enough in modern printers if > multiple jets are firing. I'm less certain a single Eboni-LK made with the > stripped down glycerol base would be good enough. I would not use it. > > > > At any rate, I think the inkset is in its final form. > > > > I'll hope to be testing a Canon with it next week. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroar <http://www.paulroark.com/> k.com/> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Eboni-6 inkset - Bases
2007-12-18 by Paul Roark
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