>... one of Wilhelm's ... supporters Add me to that list. It's so much better than nothing, as long as we know the conditions of the tests and, for example, that the manufacturer decides what tests get published -- thus no bad results. > There was also talk that Henry helped Premier Art develop > this spray in the beginning. Maybe. And maybe there was a friendship or the like. Perhaps the principals have the same concerns for longevity and have been working together and with other like minded people for a long time. >... the not knowing if all these products are the same ... I think same factory produces many of the canned sprays that use the same can, but are made to different formulas and specifications. I definitely have tested different companies' sprays that were in the same type of can and found them different. > or if Premiere Art has a superior formulation (or not). > There is absolutely no way to tell. We can obtain some information just by easy fade testing. I've done some and found different fade rates and yellowing of some products. With a spectro you can detect these things with just a few hundred hours of exposure. The very long term problems are almost impossible to test, however. We see a lot a fade testing because it is easy. Long term accelerated age testing is really crude in comparison. So, here, I give more weight to history. Most varnishes have yellowed. That is the problem with almost anything with a benzene ring in it -- UV breaks them and that causes the yellowing. That is how I ended up with the "aliphatic" (straight line instead of the usual aromatic ring structure) polyurethane for my water-based coating experiments. Unfortunately, even aliphatic epoxy yellows. Almost all of the natural varnishes have the yellowing problem. (I'm not a chemist and would appreciate any corrections to the above.) Acrylics (e.g., the Rohm & Haas B72 in Lascaux) have a great reputation for non-yellowing as far as I can tell. Even though my tests show no yellowing with Print Shield, I like to see a Wilhelm test, as, for sure, will customers. > ... Epson is committed to Premier Art Don't you think they are just a customer? I think Premier Art developed the UltraSmooth paper, but I believe PA is just one of many suppliers. I suspect Epson (and I) like working with Premier Imaging (aka Premier Art or PA by me in profiles, for example) because we get good products and straight talk from the people there. >... there may very well be some liquid laminates ... > give amazing results ... I think so also. Some of the coated matte prints are about the best I've seen. The carbon is embedded under a coating so that it's very well protected from at least physical abrasion. One of the highest dmax's I've measured is from a (matte) print on Arches Hot Press (uncoated) that had a water-based polyurethane coating on it. (The rest of the test was a bust -- I couldn't deal with the tiny paper fibers sticking out of the image.) Paul www.PaulRoark.com
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RE: [Digital BW] Desert Varnish Spray
2007-12-22 by Paul Roark
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