Digital BW, The Print

I always wondered why most folks are concerned about archival framing when most decorative paper art only stays on the wall for 2.3 years. (I got that from Paper Art magazine, issue unknown and forgotten.) Those of us whose work is in the archives of a museum or a library that loans out their archival paper art for display most likely need to worry. But I wonder how much of a concern it should be for those of us who sell our work for home decor or hang it in our own homes. 
    As Eric mentioned to frame with full archival specs,  is expensive and time consuming.Not only do you have to be concerned with all Eric mentions, there is also the concern of the frame itself and the paint, lacquers, stains and even the wood used to make it. 
      In the back of Black and White magazine is a place that sells the complete framing package and claim to be archival. The frames have a gallery look and the prices are not that bad considering the materials used. . But then again, they sell volume and are not buying the frames and materials piece by piece or in small quantities as we might.
     I was not aware that the comparison between silver prints from a darkroom and an inkjet print was not a fair comparison to make. But after thinking about Erik's statement it does make sense. It is like comparing apples to oranges. What does disturb me the most about the matte inkjet papers is the yellowing that can  happen when the OBA's wear away , for lack of a better term. I make neutral prints and enjoy making neutral prints and really  don't want them turning yellow, or cream or sepia. But from Clayton Jones' questioning of the paper manufacturers, it seems they are not too concerned about it. 
     just my 2 cents.
  Frank in NJ
Eric Neilsen <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
          Since you are now talking about (at least I assume you are talking about)
digital B&W inkjet prints making comparisons to silver gelatin image
stability on board of questionable pedigree is not a good idea. Archival
framing is not particularly cheap or fast. I believe that you'll want to
give some thought into foam core as a backer. How long do you plan on these
images staying in those frames? Are you looking for cosmetic fixes or long
lasting answers? It would be nice to see some information come out that
list the variety of ink jet papers used over the last 5 years and see what
pH range they sit. Long term framing would need to account for humidity
changes, pH changes, ozone and UV. Over matte, piece, adhesive or hinges,
substrate, mount board, barrier, backing is the order that I use for long
term archival framing. 

It sounds that you reuse your material several times. I would get some high
quality acid free single ply board to use as a barrier and double sided tape
to hold the final barrier to your frame. 

Eric Neilsen Photography

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Weaver
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 4:38 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] archival framing

Ha. my workmate made my first prints and mounted them on department store
cardboard - white smooth surfaced and dark gray ruff, etc.. I don't see any
problems after 30 years.

gar

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On 12/30/07 at 2:27 PM Frank Jay wrote:

>Just to pass on something from my experiences. In approx 1973 I
>drymounted some photos onto shirt cardboard..for those not as old as I , 
>it was the cardboard in laundered shirts which , at the time were folded
>around the cardboard. I found two of them a year ago and there was no
>sign of acid leach or yellowing. 

> wrote:
> Hi,
>I'm currently preparing some framed images for local exhibition using my
>stock frames.
>
>Some of the backing boards had got defaced as they've been used so much,
>so what I've done is to buy some quite thin, bright white cardboard to put
>over the old backing boards so that the backs are pristine.

>
>thanks,
>Richard
>--

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