Here's another perspective on the 2200 . . . I've been told by techs
who repair huge numbers of Epsons that the 2200 is a MUCH more solid
machine than the 2400 . . . They recommend that anyone replacing a
2200 go right to the 3800, which is also considered (by them) very
reliable The 3800 is bigger, of course, and more money -- but not
hugely more than the 3800.
This is not to knock the K3 workflow . . . just to state what some
consider a drawback of the 2400. I know that Clayton and others love
the 2400 workflow, and I'm not in a position to disagree (not having
one).
Mitch
On Jan 4, 2008, at 8:09 PM, Eric Neilsen wrote:
> I have a 4800 and picked up a used 2200. Any Epson printer offering the
> current ABW printing options with a K3 ink set would be hard to beat.
> If you
> have one printer and want to get the most out of it, a 2400 would be
> the
> price point for you.
>
> $$ and cents allowing, use any old 2200 for BO ink set and have fun.
>
> Eric
>
>
> Eric Neilsen Photography
> 4101 Commerce Street
> Suite 9
> Dallas, TX 75226
> http://e.neilsen.home.att.net
> http://ericneilsenphotography.com
> Skype ejprinter
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
>> elwood@...
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 5:33 PM
>> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Dilemma - 2200 or new printer?
>>
>> If it were me I would get the 2400 and not look back. The K3 inkset
>> does a
>> great job with the Epson printdriver and is absolutely robust when
>> compared to the 2200. Even Jeff Schewe admits to the 2200 being one
>> of the
>> lemons in the Epson pie. I have had both and love the 2400. Reliable
>> and
>> consistent
>>
>> Woody Spedden
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: tom_email69 <tom_email69@...>
>> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2008 7:50:18 PM
>> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Dilemma - 2200 or new printer?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Lawrence,
>>
>> I'm sure you will get a lot of good answers to your questions
>>
>> here. Another good source is the Feb 2008 (current issue) of
>>
>> Shutterbug Magazine. This entire issue is devoted to B&W Photography.
>>
>> The article "A New B&W Inkjet Option" by David Brooks (whom I hold
>>
>> in high regard)discusses setting up some Epson printers to be able to
>>
>> print B&W using carbon inks and still use them a full time color
>> printers.
>>
>> Hope you find this useful! - Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com, "Lawrence
>> Beals"
>>
>> <lbealsjr@.. .> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>> I have an odd sort of dilemma here. I have a new in the box (only
>>
>>> opened for inventory) Epson 2200 that I bought before the Navy
>>> decided
>>
>>> to re-prioritize my life. Now that I am retired I am looking to get
>>
>>> back into photography full time - I think the term is "selfishly
>>
>>> employed". Most of what I have shot in the past couple of years has
>>
>>> been split between weddings/portraits (which the printing for is
>>
>>> handled mostly off site) and personal projects, mostly B&W landscapes
>>
>>> and astrophotography.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> So should I break out the 2200 or ebay it to someone who already has
>>> a
>>
>>> 2200 workflow in place and buy a R2400 - especially since the local
>>
>>> CompUSA has a bunch of R2400s and they are going out of business.
>>
>>> Realistically, I would rather be out shooting than tweaking my
>>
>>> printers. After spending 26 years doing nuclear power (and computer
>>
>>> networking etc as a collateral duty) I am sure I can handled the tech
>>
>>> side of things but would just rather be out shooting than slaving
>>> over
>>
>>> a hot printer all day. I do want the ability to produce a print that
>>
>>> is acceptable for gifting and hanging personally on site.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> If I stay with the 2200 should I convert it right from the start to a
>>
>>> B&W inkset or just play with the OEM inksets until I sort of the
>>
>>> inevitable tech issues. I am using a MacPro desktop, but mostly
>>
>>> directly booted into Win XP along with CS3 and Lightroom.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> thoughts?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Lawrence
>>
>>>
>>
>>> --
>>
>>> --
>>
>>> Bear AKA Lawrence Beals
>>
>>> "The price of anything is the amount of life you exchange for it."
>>
>> -Thoreau
>>
>>> PIG DEAD. SOLDIER ON.
>>
>>> --
>>
>>>
>>
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> I have a 4800 and picked up a used 2200. Any Epson printer offering the
> current ABW printing options with a K3 ink set would be hard to beat.
> If you
> have one printer and want to get the most out of it, a 2400 would be
> the
> price point for you.
>
> $$ and cents allowing, use any old 2200 for BO ink set and have fun.
>
> Eric
>
>
> Eric Neilsen Photography
> 4101 Commerce Street
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
>> elwood@wsnconsult.com
>> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 5:33 PM
>> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Dilemma - 2200 or new printer?
>>
>> If it were me I would get the 2400 and not look back. The K3 inkset
>> does a
>> great job with the Epson printdriver and is absolutely robust when
>> compared to the 2200. Even Jeff Schewe admits to the 2200 being one
>> of the
>> lemons in the Epson pie. I have had both and love the 2400. Reliable
>> and
>> consistent
>>
>> Woody Spedden
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: tom_email69 <tom_email69@...>
>> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2008 7:50:18 PM
>> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Dilemma - 2200 or new printer?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Lawrence,
>>
>> I'm sure you will get a lot of good answers to your questions
>>
>> here. Another good source is the Feb 2008 (current issue) of
>>
>> Shutterbug Magazine. This entire issue is devoted to B&W Photography.
>>
>> The article "A New B&W Inkjet Option" by David Brooks (whom I hold
>>
>> in high regard)discusses setting up some Epson printers to be able to
>>
>> print B&W using carbon inks and still use them a full time color
>> printers.
>>
>> Hope you find this useful! - Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhit eThePrint@ yahoogroups. com, "Lawrence
>> Beals"
>>
>> <lbealsjr@.. .> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>> I have an odd sort of dilemma here. I have a new in the box (only
>>
>>> opened for inventory) Epson 2200 that I bought before the Navy
>>> decided
>>
>>> to re-prioritize my life. Now that I am retired I am looking to get
>>
>>> back into photography full time - I think the term is "selfishly
>>
>>> employed". Most of what I have shot in the past couple of years has
>>
>>> been split between weddings/portraits (which the printing for is
>>
>>> handled mostly off site) and personal projects, mostly B&W landscapes
>>
>>> and astrophotography.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> So should I break out the 2200 or ebay it to someone who already has
>>> a
>>
>>> 2200 workflow in place and buy a R2400 - especially since the local
>>
>>> CompUSA has a bunch of R2400s and they are going out of business.
>>
>>> Realistically, I would rather be out shooting than tweaking my
>>
>>> printers. After spending 26 years doing nuclear power (and computer
>>
>>> networking etc as a collateral duty) I am sure I can handled the tech
>>
>>> side of things but would just rather be out shooting than slaving
>>> over
>>
>>> a hot printer all day. I do want the ability to produce a print that
>>
>>> is acceptable for gifting and hanging personally on site.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> If I stay with the 2200 should I convert it right from the start to a
>>
>>> B&W inkset or just play with the OEM inksets until I sort of the
>>
>>> inevitable tech issues. I am using a MacPro desktop, but mostly
>>
>>> directly booted into Win XP along with CS3 and Lightroom.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> thoughts?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Lawrence
>>
>>>
>>
>>> --
>>
>>> --
>>
>>> Bear AKA Lawrence Beals
>>
>>> "The price of anything is the amount of life you exchange for it."
>>
>> -Thoreau
>>
>>> PIG DEAD. SOLDIER ON.
>>
>>> --
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Dilemma - 2200 or new printer?
2008-01-05 by Mitch Greenwald