Digital BW, The Print

Dear Paul - 

Actually i got a bunch of stuff emailed to me that was a long compilation of your emails that made me curious.  I get a lot of emails along this line but never came in here to see your "honesty".  

Very good twist I would say.  As I can say that you are doing here as well.  I think there are a lot of lurkers in all lists that don't email much.

Personally I wish you the best of luck.  The state of BW printing needs all the champions it can get - as color will get most of the big guys research dollars.  Maybe Epson will someday come out with a BW inkset and printer, but I bet there are accountants somewhere that would argue the market is too small.  There is plenty of room for alternate processes and inksets.  The more the merrier.  

I would like to see you plug your methodologies and your workflow and  and your trials and tribulations.  That I think is a very healthy thing - but there is this undercurrent that continually is sort of anti-Piezo.  This is what I am getting emails about.  

There is no need for that - your work is respected I assume and will stand on its own.

We aced curves long ago - one of the main things about Piezo was to make it easy to use.  But for a die hard experimenter with time on their hands, a set of curves is the way to go.

I don't have a lot of time to spend in here - so you will have the last word.  Try to keep to the high road.

Best regards, 
Bill Bergh







--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> 
> I take it you still work for Jon Cone.
> 
> Sorry if the information on this list upsets you, but there are, according
> to the survey in the Files section, more Piezo users here than MIS users.  I
> think they are very able to think for themselves and provide balance to
> discussions if those of us who prefer MIS inks get too enthusiastic.
> 
> In the question you site about the 7000, the person wanted to print sepia.
> Has Cone Editions provided such?  The new MIS VM-Sepia just might get the
> 7000 owner where he wants to go.  Note that I have published the basic
> formulas for the inks so anyone can mix and make them -- including Cone
> Editions.
> 
> I started out making the variable-tone inks for the Piezo inkset.  What I
> received from the Piezo camp was threats that I'd be kicked off the Piezo
> list if I mentioned any other inksets there.
> 
> So, when you say:
> 
> >I see that a message that is headed " Piezo on 7000 - good enough
> >for 8x10?"  becomes a suble sales pitch for MIS ...
> 
> Well, maybe it turns out that way because the market needs more than what
> was out there before.  Perhaps you're so accustomed to a seller-controlled
> forum that you forget what freedom of speech feels like.  If you have
> something to say, you can say it here without any threats of being kicked
> off the list.
> 
> > - geez Paul - whats the connection here - ...
> 
> I've been very open and clear that MIS does provide me with the materials
> that I use to come up with these mixes.  This is normal for beta testers, as
> best I can tell.  I do more than beta testing because I want to.  I'm
> retired, so I don't work for anyone except myself.
> 
> What I say on this list and elsewhere is what I beleive to be true.  I'm
> sorry if that has put some heat on Cone Editions, but competition is the way
> our system works.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com