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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Piezo/Paul's curves and such

2002-02-04 by Jerry Olson

Hi Bruce,

Without a printer profile, you will probably not ever get satisfactory
prints from a color inkset. With a profile, I get excellent black and
white photos from my MIS and Generations color inks. But the overall
quality for a black and white prints seems to be better with Quad or Hex
inks. I love the MIS hextone inks and Paul's curves on several papers.
His curves aren't nearly as fussy as to what paper you use. If your
print is perfect on Epson Archival matte for instance, and you want to
print the same print on Eclipse Satine, Just use a gamma correction in a
levels adjustment curve from 100 to 85. Label that curve and every time
you use eclipse paper, just apply that adjustment. For Legion Photo
matte paper, I move the gamma slider to 90. This system works great for
me. Each paper can have its' own curve. Some papers will print the same
as others, you'll have to make tests. 

Before you do a lot, I'd sample a lot of different papers and choose the
3 or 4 you like best and then for about 6 months, just use them and get
to know them. My favorites are Epson Archival Matte, Epson Watercolor,
Photo Matte, and Eclipse. For large prints I like Royal Riviera, but as
it is heavily textured, it works best on the larger sizes. It prints
very sharp for a heavily textured paper.

Jerry

photo734 wrote:
> 
> Jerry,
> Thanks for the heads up. I had been considering Piezo for some time.
> I'm doing duotones on my 1270 with standard Epson inks. MIS VS sounds
> like the good way to go.  I have a friend who recdently spent over
> $1000 for the Piezo setup, not counting the printer, and has had
> nothing but trouble from the get go!  Plus, demanding $80 for a 4 oz.
> bottle of ink is gouging and robbing a captive group.
> 
> BTW, Anyone using Epson Color Life Paper for B&W? I like the looks of
> the paper, and it workks great for color, but I can't seem to get a
> decent B&W print without a strong mostly magenta color cast, Even
> with Epson new downloadable profile for that paper.
> 
> Bruce McElhaney (ex-lurker)
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson
> <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> > I was taken off the black and white piezo list for mentioning MIS VM
> > inks once too often. I started quad printing with the piezo system.
> Paid
> > hundreds of dollars for it. I was one of the first to use it. There
> were
> > terrible bugs in the first version of the software that resulted in
> my
> > wasting hundreds of dollars in ink and paper before the problems
> (the
> > dreaded screen pattern all over the prints, and the horizontal
> > stripes... no image, just stripes.) and the banding, the prints
> weren't
> > square, etc. It was awful.
> >
> > When you're first starting out there will be all kinds of problems,
> I
> > know that, but I was wasting way too much ink and paper to be a
> happy
> > camper. And those brown tones...
> > Never liked them. So when Paul Roark and MIS came out with curves
> and
> > coldtone inks I jumped to that system and never looked back. I would
> > never pay $80 for a 4 ounce bottle of ink again. You can get every
> bit
> > as high quality with Paul's curves and VM inks as you can with the
> Piezo system.
> >
> > Jerry
> 
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