Digital BW, The Print

Ya!!

I would think that the place that has bulk ink would have a syringe.

I place the cart on a surface designed to absorb spills.

I poke a hole through the epson film on top.

load syringe and slowly transfer ink to cart.

I use the tap/rap method to settle ink and disloge air bubbles. I rap the ink exit flat against the work surface. I look for little "kiss" imprints on the work surface to show that ink is flowing.



gar

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On 2/5/08 at 7:38 AM frankbickelmeyer wrote:

>Gary,
>thats pretty cool! But no i don´t have any stuff to refill carts. 
>What will i need therefor? I haven´t refill any carts at all so how 
>does it work? I can order the Ultratone ink in 100ml Bottles here and 
>a Syringe with a needle too.
>
>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Weaver" 
><garww@...> wrote:
>>
>> Yes!!
>> 
>> It would be nice to have a clean cart, but I didn't blink an 
>eyelash.
>> 
>> Since the process involves switching from dye ink to pigment ink, 
>you have to make sure the old substance is not allowed to interact 
>with the new ink.
>> 
>> As soon as my dye ink printed very light, I filled it with pigment 
>and printed huge amounts of black to make sure it was flowing freely. 
>I also freely saturated the cart. well nipple with vinegar and/or 
>window ammonia.
>> 
>> Do you have the refill stuff from a old refill kit?
>> 
>> gar
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>> On 2/4/08 at 7:00 PM frankbickelmeyer wrote:
>> 
>> >Does that mean i could try to fill the original epson black 
>catridge 
>> >with the MIS black?
>> >And again my question is Ultratone MatteBlack (which i can buy 
>here 
>> >in germany in bottles) the same ink as the MIS Eboni?
>> >
>> >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Weaver" 
>> ><garww@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Frank,
>> >> 
>> >> When I got my 1270, I ran the black 'til it ran out, and then, 
>> >filled the cart with MIS black.
>> >> 
>> >> gar
>> >> 
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>> >> On 2/4/08 at 2:52 PM frankbickelmeyer wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> >As i´ve found out in the meantime i can order Ultratone 
>MatteBlack-
>> >> >ink in bottles from a local dealer here in germany. Is that the 
>> >same 
>> >> >as MIS Eboni?
>> >> >But the problem indeed is that i cant find empty cartridges for 
>my 
>> >> >Epson 1200.
>> >> >When anybody could help i really would appreciate this.
>> >> >
>> >> >--- In 
>DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "finnkrogvig" 
>> >> ><reg@> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Take a look at www.inksupply.com for "MIS" inks (Eboni) and 
>> >> >> www.inkjetmall.com for Piezography K7. If you plan to print 
>BO 
>> >only 
>> >> >> the Piezography K7 MPS selenium black might have an advantage 
>> >> >because 
>> >> >> it goes on both matte and glossy papers. This is not possible 
>> >with 
>> >> >> Eboni as far as I know - check it.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> It might be a little difficult to get empty carts made for 
>> >> >refilling 
>> >> >> from USA (Inksupply) because of some legal issues Epson is 
>> >running. 
>> >> >> Somebody else have to help find other sources for empty 
>> >refillable 
>> >> >> carts.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> FinnK 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
>> >> >> "frankbickelmeyer" <bickelmeyer@> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thank you for your advice!
>> >> >> > But can anybody tell me where to order the Eboni Ink? I 
>live 
>> >in 
>> >> >> > germany so it would be fine if anybody can tell me if here 
>is 
>> >a 
>> >> >> > locakldealer for the "right stuff". Is it in cartriges or 
>in 
>> >> >> Bottles? 
>> >> >> > If in Bottles, do i nee an empty original epson cartrige?
>> >> >> > Thank you again and regards,
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > Frank
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > --- In 
>> >DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dlruckus" 
>> >> >> > <dlruckus@> wrote:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > --- In 
>> >DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton 
>> >> >> Jones"
>> >> >> > > <cj@> wrote:
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > > I agree with FinnK.  Buying the bulk inks is so 
>> >inexpensive 
>> >> >> > there's no
>> >> >> > > > reason not to use a good pigment ink.  The Piezo matte 
>> >black 
>> >> >or 
>> >> >> > Eboni
>> >> >> > > > from MIS will both do great.  I think in a 1200 you can 
>> >use 
>> >> >> just 
>> >> >> > about
>> >> >> > > > anything - someone else maybe will step in here with 
>more 
>> >on 
>> >> >> > that...
>> >> >> > > > 
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > Frank, I'd recommend your using Eboni and trying your BO 
>> >> >prints. 
>> >> >> > Once
>> >> >> > > you have that working you could go on to Paul's 3MK 
>and/or 
>> >the 
>> >> >> Eboni
>> >> >> > > hex or quad set he's come up with. You don't have to 
>change 
>> >> >> anything
>> >> >> > > but the one ink to start. You would want to remove all of 
>> >the 
>> >> >> other
>> >> >> > > inks and substitute cleaning solution for  them./// DO be 
>> >> >> > sure,repeat
>> >> >> > > sure to fully flush your machine  with a cleaning 
>solution 
>> >> >before
>> >> >> > > running any of the recent inks like Eboni in it. That 
>> >includes
>> >> >> > > cleaning the cap station thoroughly as well. The dyes are 
>> >> >> > incompatible
>> >> >> > > with Eboni.///
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > Clayton is right. The 1200 will run nearly anything if 
>> >treated 
>> >> >> > properly.
>> >> >> > > 
>> >> >> > > Regards
>> >> >> > > Duane
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
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