On 2/5/08 at 6:05 PM frankbickelmeyer wrote:
>Gary,
>thank you again!
>Then i will try out this method to refill. How big should the hole be
>on top of the cart? just as big enough for the needle of the syringe
>i guess? Should i seal the hole then with a tape? And can anybody
>please answer my question if the MIS Ultratone MatteBlack (which i
>can buy here in germany in bottles) is the same as the MIS Eboni?
>
>Frank
>
>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Weaver"
><garww@...> wrote:
>>
>> Ya!!
>>
>> I would think that the place that has bulk ink would have a syringe.
>>
>> I place the cart on a surface designed to absorb spills.
>>
>> I poke a hole through the epson film on top.
>>
>> load syringe and slowly transfer ink to cart.
>>
>> I use the tap/rap method to settle ink and disloge air bubbles. I
>rap the ink exit flat against the work surface. I look for
>little "kiss" imprints on the work surface to show that ink is
>flowing.
>>
>>
>>
>> gar
>>
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>> On 2/5/08 at 7:38 AM frankbickelmeyer wrote:
>>
>> >Gary,
>> >thats pretty cool! But no i don´t have any stuff to refill carts.
>> >What will i need therefor? I haven´t refill any carts at all so
>how
>> >does it work? I can order the Ultratone ink in 100ml Bottles here
>and
>> >a Syringe with a needle too.
>> >
>> >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Weaver"
>> ><garww@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Yes!!
>> >>
>> >> It would be nice to have a clean cart, but I didn't blink an
>> >eyelash.
>> >>
>> >> Since the process involves switching from dye ink to pigment
>ink,
>> >you have to make sure the old substance is not allowed to interact
>> >with the new ink.
>> >>
>> >> As soon as my dye ink printed very light, I filled it with
>pigment
>> >and printed huge amounts of black to make sure it was flowing
>freely.
>> >I also freely saturated the cart. well nipple with vinegar and/or
>> >window ammonia.
>> >>
>> >> Do you have the refill stuff from a old refill kit?
>> >>
>> >> gar
>> >>
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>> >> On 2/4/08 at 7:00 PM frankbickelmeyer wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Does that mean i could try to fill the original epson black
>> >catridge
>> >> >with the MIS black?
>> >> >And again my question is Ultratone MatteBlack (which i can buy
>> >here
>> >> >in germany in bottles) the same ink as the MIS Eboni?
>> >> >
>> >> >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gary
>Weaver"
>> >> ><garww@> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Frank,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> When I got my 1270, I ran the black 'til it ran out, and
>then,
>> >> >filled the cart with MIS black.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> gar
>> >> >>
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>> >> >> On 2/4/08 at 2:52 PM frankbickelmeyer wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >As i´ve found out in the meantime i can order Ultratone
>> >MatteBlack-
>> >> >> >ink in bottles from a local dealer here in germany. Is that
>the
>> >> >same
>> >> >> >as MIS Eboni?
>> >> >> >But the problem indeed is that i cant find empty cartridges
>for
>> >my
>> >> >> >Epson 1200.
>> >> >> >When anybody could help i really would appreciate this.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--- In
>> >DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "finnkrogvig"
>> >> >> ><reg@> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Take a look at www.inksupply.com for "MIS" inks (Eboni)
>and
>> >> >> >> www.inkjetmall.com for Piezography K7. If you plan to
>print
>> >BO
>> >> >only
>> >> >> >> the Piezography K7 MPS selenium black might have an
>advantage
>> >> >> >because
>> >> >> >> it goes on both matte and glossy papers. This is not
>possible
>> >> >with
>> >> >> >> Eboni as far as I know - check it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> It might be a little difficult to get empty carts made for
>> >> >> >refilling
>> >> >> >> from USA (Inksupply) because of some legal issues Epson is
>> >> >running.
>> >> >> >> Somebody else have to help find other sources for empty
>> >> >refillable
>> >> >> >> carts.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> FinnK
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
>> >> >> >> "frankbickelmeyer" <bickelmeyer@> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thank you for your advice!
>> >> >> >> > But can anybody tell me where to order the Eboni Ink? I
>> >live
>> >> >in
>> >> >> >> > germany so it would be fine if anybody can tell me if
>here
>> >is
>> >> >a
>> >> >> >> > locakldealer for the "right stuff". Is it in cartriges
>or
>> >in
>> >> >> >> Bottles?
>> >> >> >> > If in Bottles, do i nee an empty original epson cartrige?
>> >> >> >> > Thank you again and regards,
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Frank
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --- In
>> >> >DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dlruckus"
>> >> >> >> > <dlruckus@> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > --- In
>> >> >DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton
>> >> >> >> Jones"
>> >> >> >> > > <cj@> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > > I agree with FinnK. Buying the bulk inks is so
>> >> >inexpensive
>> >> >> >> > there's no
>> >> >> >> > > > reason not to use a good pigment ink. The Piezo
>matte
>> >> >black
>> >> >> >or
>> >> >> >> > Eboni
>> >> >> >> > > > from MIS will both do great. I think in a 1200 you
>can
>> >> >use
>> >> >> >> just
>> >> >> >> > about
>> >> >> >> > > > anything - someone else maybe will step in here with
>> >more
>> >> >on
>> >> >> >> > that...
>> >> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > Frank, I'd recommend your using Eboni and trying your
>BO
>> >> >> >prints.
>> >> >> >> > Once
>> >> >> >> > > you have that working you could go on to Paul's 3MK
>> >and/or
>> >> >the
>> >> >> >> Eboni
>> >> >> >> > > hex or quad set he's come up with. You don't have to
>> >change
>> >> >> >> anything
>> >> >> >> > > but the one ink to start. You would want to remove all
>of
>> >> >the
>> >> >> >> other
>> >> >> >> > > inks and substitute cleaning solution for them./// DO
>be
>> >> >> >> > sure,repeat
>> >> >> >> > > sure to fully flush your machine with a cleaning
>> >solution
>> >> >> >before
>> >> >> >> > > running any of the recent inks like Eboni in it. That
>> >> >includes
>> >> >> >> > > cleaning the cap station thoroughly as well. The dyes
>are
>> >> >> >> > incompatible
>> >> >> >> > > with Eboni.///
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > Clayton is right. The 1200 will run nearly anything if
>> >> >treated
>> >> >> >> > properly.
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > Regards
>> >> >> >> > > Duane
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >
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