Digital BW, The Print

Gary,
thats pretty cool! But no i don´t have any stuff to refill carts. 
What will i need therefor? I haven´t refill any carts at all so how 
does it work? I can order the Ultratone ink in 100ml Bottles here and 
a Syringe with a needle too.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Weaver" 
<garww@...> wrote:
>
> Yes!!
> 
> It would be nice to have a clean cart, but I didn't blink an 
eyelash.
> 
> Since the process involves switching from dye ink to pigment ink, 
you have to make sure the old substance is not allowed to interact 
with the new ink.
> 
> As soon as my dye ink printed very light, I filled it with pigment 
and printed huge amounts of black to make sure it was flowing freely. 
I also freely saturated the cart. well nipple with vinegar and/or 
window ammonia.
> 
> Do you have the refill stuff from a old refill kit?
> 
> gar
> 
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> On 2/4/08 at 7:00 PM frankbickelmeyer wrote:
> 
> >Does that mean i could try to fill the original epson black 
catridge 
> >with the MIS black?
> >And again my question is Ultratone MatteBlack (which i can buy 
here 
> >in germany in bottles) the same ink as the MIS Eboni?
> >
> >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Weaver" 
> ><garww@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Frank,
> >> 
> >> When I got my 1270, I ran the black 'til it ran out, and then, 
> >filled the cart with MIS black.
> >> 
> >> gar
> >> 
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> >> On 2/4/08 at 2:52 PM frankbickelmeyer wrote:
> >> 
> >> >As i´ve found out in the meantime i can order Ultratone 
MatteBlack-
> >> >ink in bottles from a local dealer here in germany. Is that the 
> >same 
> >> >as MIS Eboni?
> >> >But the problem indeed is that i cant find empty cartridges for 
my 
> >> >Epson 1200.
> >> >When anybody could help i really would appreciate this.
> >> >
> >> >--- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "finnkrogvig" 
> >> ><reg@> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Take a look at www.inksupply.com for "MIS" inks (Eboni) and 
> >> >> www.inkjetmall.com for Piezography K7. If you plan to print 
BO 
> >only 
> >> >> the Piezography K7 MPS selenium black might have an advantage 
> >> >because 
> >> >> it goes on both matte and glossy papers. This is not possible 
> >with 
> >> >> Eboni as far as I know - check it.
> >> >> 
> >> >> It might be a little difficult to get empty carts made for 
> >> >refilling 
> >> >> from USA (Inksupply) because of some legal issues Epson is 
> >running. 
> >> >> Somebody else have to help find other sources for empty 
> >refillable 
> >> >> carts.
> >> >> 
> >> >> FinnK 
> >> >> 
> >> >> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
> >> >> "frankbickelmeyer" <bickelmeyer@> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thank you for your advice!
> >> >> > But can anybody tell me where to order the Eboni Ink? I 
live 
> >in 
> >> >> > germany so it would be fine if anybody can tell me if here 
is 
> >a 
> >> >> > locakldealer for the "right stuff". Is it in cartriges or 
in 
> >> >> Bottles? 
> >> >> > If in Bottles, do i nee an empty original epson cartrige?
> >> >> > Thank you again and regards,
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Frank
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > --- In 
> >DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dlruckus" 
> >> >> > <dlruckus@> wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > --- In 
> >DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton 
> >> >> Jones"
> >> >> > > <cj@> wrote:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > > I agree with FinnK.  Buying the bulk inks is so 
> >inexpensive 
> >> >> > there's no
> >> >> > > > reason not to use a good pigment ink.  The Piezo matte 
> >black 
> >> >or 
> >> >> > Eboni
> >> >> > > > from MIS will both do great.  I think in a 1200 you can 
> >use 
> >> >> just 
> >> >> > about
> >> >> > > > anything - someone else maybe will step in here with 
more 
> >on 
> >> >> > that...
> >> >> > > > 
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > Frank, I'd recommend your using Eboni and trying your BO 
> >> >prints. 
> >> >> > Once
> >> >> > > you have that working you could go on to Paul's 3MK 
and/or 
> >the 
> >> >> Eboni
> >> >> > > hex or quad set he's come up with. You don't have to 
change 
> >> >> anything
> >> >> > > but the one ink to start. You would want to remove all of 
> >the 
> >> >> other
> >> >> > > inks and substitute cleaning solution for  them./// DO be 
> >> >> > sure,repeat
> >> >> > > sure to fully flush your machine  with a cleaning 
solution 
> >> >before
> >> >> > > running any of the recent inks like Eboni in it. That 
> >includes
> >> >> > > cleaning the cap station thoroughly as well. The dyes are 
> >> >> > incompatible
> >> >> > > with Eboni.///
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > Clayton is right. The 1200 will run nearly anything if 
> >treated 
> >> >> > properly.
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > Regards
> >> >> > > Duane
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
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