Gary, thank you again! Then i will try out this method to refill. How big should the hole be on top of the cart? just as big enough for the needle of the syringe i guess? Should i seal the hole then with a tape? And can anybody please answer my question if the MIS Ultratone MatteBlack (which i can buy here in germany in bottles) is the same as the MIS Eboni? Frank --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Weaver" <garww@...> wrote: > > Ya!! > > I would think that the place that has bulk ink would have a syringe. > > I place the cart on a surface designed to absorb spills. > > I poke a hole through the epson film on top. > > load syringe and slowly transfer ink to cart. > > I use the tap/rap method to settle ink and disloge air bubbles. I rap the ink exit flat against the work surface. I look for little "kiss" imprints on the work surface to show that ink is flowing. > > > > gar > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 2/5/08 at 7:38 AM frankbickelmeyer wrote: > > >Gary, > >thats pretty cool! But no i don´t have any stuff to refill carts. > >What will i need therefor? I haven´t refill any carts at all so how > >does it work? I can order the Ultratone ink in 100ml Bottles here and > >a Syringe with a needle too. > > > >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Weaver" > ><garww@> wrote: > >> > >> Yes!! > >> > >> It would be nice to have a clean cart, but I didn't blink an > >eyelash. > >> > >> Since the process involves switching from dye ink to pigment ink, > >you have to make sure the old substance is not allowed to interact > >with the new ink. > >> > >> As soon as my dye ink printed very light, I filled it with pigment > >and printed huge amounts of black to make sure it was flowing freely. > >I also freely saturated the cart. well nipple with vinegar and/or > >window ammonia. > >> > >> Do you have the refill stuff from a old refill kit? > >> > >> gar > >> > >> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >> > >> On 2/4/08 at 7:00 PM frankbickelmeyer wrote: > >> > >> >Does that mean i could try to fill the original epson black > >catridge > >> >with the MIS black? > >> >And again my question is Ultratone MatteBlack (which i can buy > >here > >> >in germany in bottles) the same ink as the MIS Eboni? > >> > > >> >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Weaver" > >> ><garww@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Frank, > >> >> > >> >> When I got my 1270, I ran the black 'til it ran out, and then, > >> >filled the cart with MIS black. > >> >> > >> >> gar > >> >> > >> >> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >> >> > >> >> On 2/4/08 at 2:52 PM frankbickelmeyer wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >As i´ve found out in the meantime i can order Ultratone > >MatteBlack- > >> >> >ink in bottles from a local dealer here in germany. Is that the > >> >same > >> >> >as MIS Eboni? > >> >> >But the problem indeed is that i cant find empty cartridges for > >my > >> >> >Epson 1200. > >> >> >When anybody could help i really would appreciate this. > >> >> > > >> >> >--- In > >DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "finnkrogvig" > >> >> ><reg@> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Take a look at www.inksupply.com for "MIS" inks (Eboni) and > >> >> >> www.inkjetmall.com for Piezography K7. If you plan to print > >BO > >> >only > >> >> >> the Piezography K7 MPS selenium black might have an advantage > >> >> >because > >> >> >> it goes on both matte and glossy papers. This is not possible > >> >with > >> >> >> Eboni as far as I know - check it. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> It might be a little difficult to get empty carts made for > >> >> >refilling > >> >> >> from USA (Inksupply) because of some legal issues Epson is > >> >running. > >> >> >> Somebody else have to help find other sources for empty > >> >refillable > >> >> >> carts. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> FinnK > >> >> >> > >> >> >> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, > >> >> >> "frankbickelmeyer" <bickelmeyer@> wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Thank you for your advice! > >> >> >> > But can anybody tell me where to order the Eboni Ink? I > >live > >> >in > >> >> >> > germany so it would be fine if anybody can tell me if here > >is > >> >a > >> >> >> > locakldealer for the "right stuff". Is it in cartriges or > >in > >> >> >> Bottles? > >> >> >> > If in Bottles, do i nee an empty original epson cartrige? > >> >> >> > Thank you again and regards, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Frank > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > --- In > >> >DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dlruckus" > >> >> >> > <dlruckus@> wrote: > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > --- In > >> >DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton > >> >> >> Jones" > >> >> >> > > <cj@> wrote: > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > I agree with FinnK. Buying the bulk inks is so > >> >inexpensive > >> >> >> > there's no > >> >> >> > > > reason not to use a good pigment ink. The Piezo matte > >> >black > >> >> >or > >> >> >> > Eboni > >> >> >> > > > from MIS will both do great. I think in a 1200 you can > >> >use > >> >> >> just > >> >> >> > about > >> >> >> > > > anything - someone else maybe will step in here with > >more > >> >on > >> >> >> > that... > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > Frank, I'd recommend your using Eboni and trying your BO > >> >> >prints. > >> >> >> > Once > >> >> >> > > you have that working you could go on to Paul's 3MK > >and/or > >> >the > >> >> >> Eboni > >> >> >> > > hex or quad set he's come up with. You don't have to > >change > >> >> >> anything > >> >> >> > > but the one ink to start. You would want to remove all of > >> >the > >> >> >> other > >> >> >> > > inks and substitute cleaning solution for them./// DO be > >> >> >> > sure,repeat > >> >> >> > > sure to fully flush your machine with a cleaning > >solution > >> >> >before > >> >> >> > > running any of the recent inks like Eboni in it. That > >> >includes > >> >> >> > > cleaning the cap station thoroughly as well. 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[Digital BW] Re: Beginner questions
2008-02-05 by frankbickelmeyer