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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Epson Exhibition Fiber - A Review

2008-02-11 by Gary Weaver

Ha!!!

The Scribe was a craftsman, and sure, art could play a part. But in all printing, it's always been a craft. The primary effort is to reproduce faithfully and art has nothing to do with that.

Don't tell printers that printing isn't a craft. And I'm proud to learn the old craft. I've inked up all sorts of stuff.

gar

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On 2/10/08 at 7:34 PM Robert W Shearer wrote:

>Yes, the best analysis so far. This seems to be a bit of a touchy subject.
>This looks like a new addition to the Windows/Apple, Nikon/Canon, Life v
>Death hardcore issues. Did not know that I was going there!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary
>Weaver
>Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 6:59 PM
>To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson Exhibition Fiber - A Review
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>I half disagree. Printing is a craft. Creating the image is the art.
>
>gar
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>On 2/10/08 at 2:10 PM CorrPro96@... wrote:
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>>I have to disagree.
>>Photography has always been about the craft first, the art second and the
> 
>>technical in terms of feasibility... whether or not it is possible.
>>Digital has provided the technology that has enabled the craft and the art
>> 
>>to reach into areas beyond photography, using the photographic processes.
>> 
>>Richard Massie
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>>In a message dated 2/10/2008 1:58:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
>>nemophoto@... writes:
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>>.  Photography
>>has always been about the technical, we just never called it  that,
>>because computers weren't  involved.
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>>**************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music.   
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>>48)
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