Digital BW, The Print

on 2/4/02 9:10 PM, Michael Kravit wrote:

> Now Bergh is weighing in and ragging on Roark.  I received an email from Bill
> this morning, he agrees that he got a bit out of hand and I think he regrets
> posting the way he did.

The thing is, Bill's and Jon's comments are always welcome here. By all
means they should put their thoughts together coherently, and express
themselves fully, and not let their feelings get pent up. But Bill did the
equivalent of driving by, shouting things, and throwing bottles out the
window, which only harmed his credibility. None of us even wanted to believe
it was him!

If Jon or Bill would like to expose the fallacies and biases they perceive
on this list it would be good for everyone, however, one would hope they'd
at least try to substantiate their claims. People were never invited to do
that on the Piezo list and that's why it's atrophied. Even Jon and Bill
don't participate there anymore. Even problems aren't solved there, people
are told to call in to get the "secrete" to fixing their problem. I don't
know what that list is anymore; it's not a users list, because if users
don't tow the line they get threatened with censorship, and it's not tech
support because IJM doesn't answer to problems.

My point is debate is important. Talking pros and cons is important. Some
people feel saying anything contrary to their chosen product is harmful and
unfair. I think flame wars/platform wars/ink wars are juvenile, but maturely
discussing a product's, or system's, upside AND down side is essential for
craft persons of the caliber on this list.

Todd