On 18/02/2008 wwodets wrote: > I've gone through all the Z3100 posts and found little actually > describing the appearance of the GE. How would you describe the > appearance in terms of color and gloss level? Has anyone used this > with the Harman Gloss FB AI? Used over the entire surface, does the GE > raise or lower the gloss as compared to the straight Harman paper in > unprinted areas? Compared to other of the gloss papers? Does it raise > or lower the gloss of the inks? Is this a high gloss surface, a satin, > etc.? I have seen Z3100 Harman FB AL gloss prints done using black+gray+GO. Overall they are pretty successful. The GO eliminates 80% of the bronzing and GD that Vivera black & grey produces on this paper without GO. You have to look quite closely to see any trace of bronzing, and these prints are the closest I have yet seen to wet darkroom prints. If anything tone is a little too neutral. Bromides tended to be either warm or cold, and the Z3100 samples were just a little sterile for my taste. They reminded me of the original Seagull Oriental in Dektol in that respect, which I preferred after selenium toning. Aside from that, there is still a slight residual sense that the image is sat on the surface rather than within the emulsion. But they are, as I say, very close to FB bromides and I doubt most people would notice. The GO appears pretty much clear. I don't recall any sense of yellowing, but whether that would change with time I don't know. The coating itself is very thin and adds a little gloss but without changing the slight surface texture. The application did not look completely even, even though it was a full rather than economy/selective coating. Without be able to pin this down, I remember thinking that the coating looked like a coating rather than an integral part of the surface. I was told - by the guy who'd been testing - that they had a few issues with adhesion of the GO on Harman, but the 2 prints I saw were OK and showed no flaking except at the cut edge where it had been trimmed after printing. Overall highly impressive and very promising. But I think it might work even better with one of the Innova papers - Fibaprint White Gloss, Warmtone Gloss or Ultra Smooth Gloss White. The surface of the first two is slightly less glossy than the Harman and a little more 'textured' with the Ultra Smooth down the middle. I've experimented with this latter paper (on a B9180) and (aside from an occasional overinking issue) it achieves a better Dmax than the Harman. Innova tell me the White Gloss and Warmtone Gloss work better with Vivera but I haven't yet tried the samples I have. -- Regards Tony Sleep http://tonysleep.co.uk
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Re: [Digital BW] Questions on the appearance of the Z3100 Gloss Enhancer
2008-02-18 by Tony Sleep
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