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Re: Epson Velvet Fine Art Super Permanent in Sheets Only?

2008-02-22 by john dean

I'm not really that experienced with VFA but from what I remember it
might not be any worse than German Etching or Museum Etching in regard
to thickness. 

I'll tell you one thing, I'm having a lot of problem with the Museum
Etching rolls curling in the 10K printer and leaving black smudges on
the edges of the paper with the K6 inks - rarely happening with
Photorag. And, this is a printer you can easily run foam cor though.

It's a shame because it is a perfect print color to me with K6 and I
use it for my own work and others. It is gotten to the point where I'm
going to have to trim it down in sheets and that is a great hassle
because I don't have a dry mount press big enough to flatten the
sheets. I feed the very thick Crane Museo 2 in 17x22 sheets and it is
always perfect. When the M Etching gets down to about 1/2 of the roll
it is just impossible to keep remotely flat on the roll. I've done
everything I can think of to set the paper thickness on the machine to
as wide as it will go. It is just striking the paper at the curl
point. I don'† seem to have that problem so much in the 9600 though
with the proper settings.

john



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley"
<tyler@...> wrote:
>
> John, wouldn't it be a handling problem? I've had my hands on this
> stuff once or twice and it seemed a bit "board" like to roll without
> problems. It's also one of the worst flakers I've seen, so Drolling
> and the rest of the somewhat brutal handling to get the thing flatter
> could also be problematic...
> ?
> I agree though, nice stuff, at least they could make larger sheets.
> Tyler
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean"
> <deanwork2003@> wrote:
> >
> > I just reflected again on the fact that Wilhelm has the best black and
> > white permanency rating for the  Epson Velvet Fine Art paper with
> > Ultrachrome inks (no uv spray coating). That is 406 wilhelm years
> > under glass compared to 100 years less for the Premier Art Hotpress
> > with the same inks AND a uv coating.
> > 
> > http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/9880.html
> > 
> > That's pretty signigicant, especially when one considers that the dmax
> > with Ultrachrome is way beyond all the other matte rag papers out
> > there. ( not true with Cone inks however, :-( ). Anyone who has tried
> > to match the deep black with Ultrachomre on any Hahnemuhle paper knows
> > exactly what I'm talking about. It isn't even close with UC. 
> > 
> > Can ANYONE think of a reason this paper is not being offered in rolls?
> >  Is is that damn fragile? To me it has a superior texture and gamut to
> > Somerset Velvet with far greater stability ratings and dmax? But 17x22
> > is the limit. Strange indeed.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
>
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductMediaSpec.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=Overview&oid=-9824&category=Paper+%26+Media
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > John
> >
>

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