John, I only order the largest size, anything smaller is trimmed out
of that, turns out there is very little waste considering test strips,
proofs, many small prints etc.. 4 up on an Iris size sheet is no more
handling than the same from a roll, minus the Droll wrestling and
ruining. The RIP puts the trim marks on for me, a few cuts and they're
in the clearbags.
Obviously I was being a bit sarcastic.
I had years of sheets only, and now years of rolls. There is no
contest, I realize literally no one seems to agree with me. Except of
course, my clients who'd prefer no more kinked or curly prints.
If you do the math, subtract the waste from the unusable roll ends,
even if you don't ruin 50% of the prints like I do attempting to
flatten, I think you will actually find the large sheets may be
cheaper when ordered in palettes of 3 boxes. They were some years
back, but prices have changed.
Frankly, its the largest stuff that is even easier with sheets. Surely
you don't stand there while each 30x40 is printing, all that time,
ready with the next sheet <G>.
If I had to jump through the kinds of hoops suggested here to make a
print flat, I too would be out of business in a week.
Also, I'm not doing the volume you are, nowhere close.
The invitation is still open, I'd be happy to watch anyone stop by and
flatten one of these roll prints here easily, quickly, without ruining
it. Prize is a cup of coffee and my unending respect (not bankable).
And the LL video is a joke, the damn print is already nearly flat and
lays out like no roll print I've ever seen.
I'll stop posting about this now, I seem to be the only one on the
planet not able to make all that work. Not the first or last thing
I'll never master, time to move on.
T
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean"
<deanwork2003@...> wrote:
>
> Tyler,
>
> I do lot of 30x40 and 40x60 prints and multiples of the same image. If
> I had to order sheets I simply wouldn't be in business anymore. I
> agree that for things up to 17x22 sheets are really a breeze, but a
> huge portion of my work is either larger than that, or multiple prints
> of the same image. If I had to stand there and feed 100 sheets in the
> printer that too would put me out of business. I'd have to double my
> prices. I have done three portfolios in the last year that contained
> around 25 editions of around 30 prints each. They were done with
> Photorag primarily and all done with groups on a roll of about 44x60"
> and derolled at that size. They were all fine and it made the job
> worth doing for me.
>
> I still would like to have a giant dry mount press though. That would
> be sweet.
>
>
> John
>
>
> y attempt resulted in some kind of
> > > > kink.
> > >
> > > ???????????
> > >
> > > I have never had a problem reverse rolling German Etching, never.
> > > Sounds like you need a different tool for the job. My suggestion
> is to
> > > buy some really super cheap canvas (50+ inches wide). Unroll a
> length,
> > > insert print, roll back up and leave it for 20 minutes or so. If
the
> > > canvas gets dirty, cut off the dirty portion and toss it or use it
> for
> > > packing material. Don't think I've even done this on larger than
> 30x40
> > > inches, so if you go a lot bigger it may be a bit more of an issue
> > >
> > > That said, assuming that your inks are waterproof, get a garment
> > > steamer and try steaming the German Etching, or Photo Rag. You'd be
> > > surprised what you can put these papers through and still have a
> > > perfect print. If you put a cover sheet over the ink, a steam press
> > > should work fine to flatten the paper before mounting. It little
> bit of
> > > added humidity will make the paper very forgiving.
> > >
> > > And just for the record, I have not tried steam pressing any of my
> > > prints. But I have soaked them in the hottest water that comes
> from the
> > > tap, steamed them with a garment steamer, and just generally abused
> > > them. GE, PhotoRag, Photorag luster, several of the Hawk Mountain
> > > papers, a couple of the canvas materials, and a few other matte
> papers
> > > show few signs of damage from steam and water with Image
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> > > pigment inks. I even measured a profile target before and after the
> > > print dried again and saw little change. Steaming Photo Rag Luster
> will
> > > make the entire surface have about the same amount of gloss.
> > >
> >
>