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Re: Epson Velvet Fine Art Super Permanent in Sheets Only?

2008-02-24 by wwodets

Tyler-

Oddly I have had exactly the opposite experience with VFA.  After 
thousands of prints on 13 x 19 and hundreds on 17 x 22 I have never 
had any flaking problem whatsoever.  I compare it to Ultrasmooth, 
which is also flake-free and Photo Rag which is a problem in this 
regard.  I have also shipped perhaps a hundred VFA prints rolled, in 
tubes, and have never had a problem with it or with flattening it for 
framing on the other end.  I have never used roll paper in my 4800 
because of the handling problems and don't do a volume of work that 
makes it necessary.

Walt


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
<tyler@...> wrote:
>
> John, wouldn't it be a handling problem? I've had my hands on this
> stuff once or twice and it seemed a bit "board" like to roll without
> problems. It's also one of the worst flakers I've seen, so Drolling
> and the rest of the somewhat brutal handling to get the thing 
flatter
> could also be problematic...
> ?
> I agree though, nice stuff, at least they could make larger sheets.
> Tyler
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean"
> <deanwork2003@> wrote:
> >
> > I just reflected again on the fact that Wilhelm has the best 
black and
> > white permanency rating for the  Epson Velvet Fine Art paper with
> > Ultrachrome inks (no uv spray coating). That is 406 wilhelm years
> > under glass compared to 100 years less for the Premier Art 
Hotpress
> > with the same inks AND a uv coating.
> > 
> > http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/9880.html
> > 
> > That's pretty signigicant, especially when one considers that the 
dmax
> > with Ultrachrome is way beyond all the other matte rag papers out
> > there. ( not true with Cone inks however, :-( ). Anyone who has 
tried
> > to match the deep black with Ultrachomre on any Hahnemuhle paper 
knows
> > exactly what I'm talking about. It isn't even close with UC. 
> > 
> > Can ANYONE think of a reason this paper is not being offered in 
rolls?
> >  Is is that damn fragile? To me it has a superior texture and 
gamut to
> > Somerset Velvet with far greater stability ratings and dmax? But 
17x22
> > is the limit. Strange indeed.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductMediaSpec.jsp?
BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=Overview&oid=-9824&category=Paper+%
26+Media
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > John
> >
>

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