Digital BW, The Print

My experience is that the non-cotton papers can not be Drolled. They
will kink. So German Etching is out for that. I'm not sure of VFAs
content.
In fact, we tried Drolling PhotoRag 308 yet again yesterday every
conceivable way, as a test, and every attempt resulted in some kind of
kink. This, after a client complained. And it's cotton rag.
At this point I can only assume that those not having problems are
simply not as unreasonably demanding as some of my clients.
Except for huge prints, enough with the rolls here. Done. This has
been consuming too much time and money here for too long. Ridiculous.
Back to sheets, a dream in comparison.
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean"
<deanwork2003@...> wrote:
>
> I'm not really that experienced with VFA but from what I remember it
> might not be any worse than German Etching or Museum Etching in regard
> to thickness. 
> 
> I'll tell you one thing, I'm having a lot of problem with the Museum
> Etching rolls curling in the 10K printer and leaving black smudges on
> the edges of the paper with the K6 inks - rarely happening with
> Photorag. And, this is a printer you can easily run foam cor though.
> 
> It's a shame because it is a perfect print color to me with K6 and I
> use it for my own work and others. It is gotten to the point where I'm
> going to have to trim it down in sheets and that is a great hassle
> because I don't have a dry mount press big enough to flatten the
> sheets. I feed the very thick Crane Museo 2 in 17x22 sheets and it is
> always perfect. When the M Etching gets down to about 1/2 of the roll
> it is just impossible to keep remotely flat on the roll. I've done
> everything I can think of to set the paper thickness on the machine to
> as wide as it will go. It is just striking the paper at the curl
> point. I don'† seem to have that problem so much in the 9600 though
> with the proper settings.
> 
> john
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley"
> <tyler@> wrote:
> >
> > John, wouldn't it be a handling problem? I've had my hands on this
> > stuff once or twice and it seemed a bit "board" like to roll without
> > problems. It's also one of the worst flakers I've seen, so Drolling
> > and the rest of the somewhat brutal handling to get the thing flatter
> > could also be problematic...
> > ?
> > I agree though, nice stuff, at least they could make larger sheets.
> > Tyler
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean"
> > <deanwork2003@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just reflected again on the fact that Wilhelm has the best
black and
> > > white permanency rating for the  Epson Velvet Fine Art paper with
> > > Ultrachrome inks (no uv spray coating). That is 406 wilhelm years
> > > under glass compared to 100 years less for the Premier Art Hotpress
> > > with the same inks AND a uv coating.
> > > 
> > > http://www.wilhelm-research.com/epson/9880.html
> > > 
> > > That's pretty signigicant, especially when one considers that
the dmax
> > > with Ultrachrome is way beyond all the other matte rag papers out
> > > there. ( not true with Cone inks however, :-( ). Anyone who has
tried
> > > to match the deep black with Ultrachomre on any Hahnemuhle paper
knows
> > > exactly what I'm talking about. It isn't even close with UC. 
> > > 
> > > Can ANYONE think of a reason this paper is not being offered in
rolls?
> > >  Is is that damn fragile? To me it has a superior texture and
gamut to
> > > Somerset Velvet with far greater stability ratings and dmax? But
17x22
> > > is the limit. Strange indeed.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> >
>
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductMediaSpec.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=Overview&oid=-9824&category=Paper+%26+Media
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > John
> > >
> >
>